Jul 31, 2022
Ion feel like people are taking this seriously
Jul 31, 2022
YANDHIYeah they all played their Ukraine visits as a “surprise” even though we all knew it was happening at some point
With the defense she’d need I’m pretty sure the PLA would still know if US jets was landing in Taiwan
You’d think she was the Secretary of State doing a 4-5 nation trip like this
Issue is china is a lot stronger than russia
I'd play it safer here
In Ukraine they should have just visited away and armed them even more
- Jul 31, 2022
americanaDisgusting genocidal garbage
Literally just stating what happened
Jul 31, 2022
krishna boundme when several Red Banner-9 SARH SAMs leave the ground just off of the eastern coast of China heading toward a Boeing C-40C hovering near the airspace of Taiwan on July 30, 2022
bruh god damn chill out lmaooo- Jul 31, 2022·1 replyTragedyBerlusconi
Just watching without comment
This but with one comment:
Crine.
Jul 31, 2022“petty warmongers and dictators of Beijing”
- Jul 31, 2022rnb sponge
This but with one comment:
Crine.
I change my mind s***s crazy
Jul 31, 2022·edited·3 replies
4amSadly the US has been at war basically since it was made. We’ve perfected conventional warfare. Mentioning wars like Vietnam or Afghanistan weren’t conventional wars, at least Vietnam wasn’t conventional fully. You can’t win wars that’s against the people (Taliban or Viet Cong).
You win over the hearts and minds or force the government to surrender(like Imperial Japan). I’m pretty sure Nukes would fly before Xi gave up his little government he has going on. So yea, no one would win. Without nukes, America definitely wins. Rather not have a war though.
How though? They haven’t shown they can win a “conventional war” since WW2 my dawg. They didnt defeat enemies with literally a fragment of the resources they have. Taliban, ISIS and Al Qaeda literally still exists and hold significant land in their areas. The Taliban literally controls Afghanistan now.
So you think America (without nukes) can defeat an enemy that is more unified, technologically advanced, and with more economic independence than the others? America depends on China for many resources, not the other way around.
Also: They literally nuked Japan for no reason when they were defeated in combat by the Soviets and Americans. You dont know history if you think Americans “won the hearts and minds” of Imperial Japan. They still hated Westerners especially after their Great Empire was dishonored in combat and massacres were committed against them.
- Jul 31, 2022·2 repliesJT is Electric
How though? They haven’t shown they can win a “conventional war” since WW2 my dawg. They didnt defeat enemies with literally a fragment of the resources they have. Taliban, ISIS and Al Qaeda literally still exists and hold significant land in their areas. The Taliban literally controls Afghanistan now.
So you think America (without nukes) can defeat an enemy that is more unified, technologically advanced, and with more economic independence than the others? America depends on China for many resources, not the other way around.
Also: They literally nuked Japan for no reason when they were defeated in combat by the Soviets and Americans. You dont know history if you think Americans “won the hearts and minds” of Imperial Japan. They still hated Westerners especially after their Great Empire was dishonored in combat and massacres were committed against them.
Desert Storm
Panama
Grenada
2003 invasion of IraqHalf of your post is just incorrect information anyhow
Jul 31, 2022I don’t think America at this point goes to war to win. Just to protect or take investments.
- Jul 31, 2022·1 replyJT is Electric
How though? They haven’t shown they can win a “conventional war” since WW2 my dawg. They didnt defeat enemies with literally a fragment of the resources they have. Taliban, ISIS and Al Qaeda literally still exists and hold significant land in their areas. The Taliban literally controls Afghanistan now.
So you think America (without nukes) can defeat an enemy that is more unified, technologically advanced, and with more economic independence than the others? America depends on China for many resources, not the other way around.
Also: They literally nuked Japan for no reason when they were defeated in combat by the Soviets and Americans. You dont know history if you think Americans “won the hearts and minds” of Imperial Japan. They still hated Westerners especially after their Great Empire was dishonored in combat and massacres were committed against them.
I never said the US win the hearts and minds of Imperial Japan. I said their government surrendered. As for Taliban, ISIS, and Al Qaeda, they aren’t a military controlled by a government. They won’t stand down because they’re an ideology, extremists, etc. There is no one guy in those groups that’ll tell them all to stand down and everyone will listen.
Plankton also listed conventional wars, so I don’t know why you assumed the US hasn’t fought one since WW2. Also, don’t know why you’re saying Japan was nuked for zero reason when they wanted to surrender while keeping occupied land. Unconditional surrender is what America wanted from Japan. Don’t feel like arguing with someone right now anyway, just wanted to throw my two cents in there.
- Jul 31, 2022·2 repliesPlankton
Desert Storm
Panama
Grenada
2003 invasion of IraqHalf of your post is just incorrect information anyhow
The 2003 invasion of Iraq has been almost universally decided as a failure
The Panamanian and Grenadian invasions are ridiculous examples to use
- Jul 31, 2022·2 repliesPlankton
Desert Storm
Panama
Grenada
2003 invasion of IraqHalf of your post is just incorrect information anyhow
Desert Storm was 35 countries including the United Kingdom, France and Saudi Arabia. This happened after repeated attempts to destabilize the country. Iraq is a horrible example because they were no where near as strong as China. The invasion of Iraq is another terrible example because they had to lie in order to get over 20 countries fight Iraq that time. They overthrew the government but this lead to the creation of ISIS. and they are still under civil unrest from Hezbollah, Iraq's people, etc..
I am Panamanian and will tell you that this country as always been exploited because of its geography, first it was the Spaniards then Americans. This is also a weak opponent.
Granada is also another weak island opponent.Please tell me where I'm spouting incorrect information.
- Jul 31, 2022JT is Electric
Desert Storm was 35 countries including the United Kingdom, France and Saudi Arabia. This happened after repeated attempts to destabilize the country. Iraq is a horrible example because they were no where near as strong as China. The invasion of Iraq is another terrible example because they had to lie in order to get over 20 countries fight Iraq that time. They overthrew the government but this lead to the creation of ISIS. and they are still under civil unrest from Hezbollah, Iraq's people, etc..
I am Panamanian and will tell you that this country as always been exploited because of its geography, first it was the Spaniards then Americans. This is also a weak opponent.
Granada is also another weak island opponent.Please tell me where I'm spouting incorrect information.
He doesn’t think CIA internal documents are a believable source on the state of the USSR …
- Jul 31, 2022·1 replyJT is Electric
Desert Storm was 35 countries including the United Kingdom, France and Saudi Arabia. This happened after repeated attempts to destabilize the country. Iraq is a horrible example because they were no where near as strong as China. The invasion of Iraq is another terrible example because they had to lie in order to get over 20 countries fight Iraq that time. They overthrew the government but this lead to the creation of ISIS. and they are still under civil unrest from Hezbollah, Iraq's people, etc..
I am Panamanian and will tell you that this country as always been exploited because of its geography, first it was the Spaniards then Americans. This is also a weak opponent.
Granada is also another weak island opponent.Please tell me where I'm spouting incorrect information.
Any US war against China would be a coalition war.
The invasion of Iraq (2003) didn’t include 20 countries.
Not commenting on if the wars were good or not, only that they are conventional wins, contradicting your assertion.
You are incorrect that China is more technologically advanced and resource independent than the US. You also are minimizing the extreme gap in military capability between the two. US air and naval power is untouchable, as well as logistical capability. Any war not fought on the Chinese mainland is an auto win for the US
- Jul 31, 2022americana
The 2003 invasion of Iraq has been almost universally decided as a failure
The Panamanian and Grenadian invasions are ridiculous examples to use
Not a military failure
- Jul 31, 2022·1 reply4am
I never said the US win the hearts and minds of Imperial Japan. I said their government surrendered. As for Taliban, ISIS, and Al Qaeda, they aren’t a military controlled by a government. They won’t stand down because they’re an ideology, extremists, etc. There is no one guy in those groups that’ll tell them all to stand down and everyone will listen.
Plankton also listed conventional wars, so I don’t know why you assumed the US hasn’t fought one since WW2. Also, don’t know why you’re saying Japan was nuked for zero reason when they wanted to surrender while keeping occupied land. Unconditional surrender is what America wanted from Japan. Don’t feel like arguing with someone right now anyway, just wanted to throw my two cents in there.
I never said the US win the hearts and minds of Imperial Japan. I said their government surrendered. As for Taliban, ISIS, and Al Qaeda, they aren’t a military controlled by a government. They won’t stand down because they’re an ideology, extremists, etc. There is no one guy in those groups that’ll tell them all to stand down and everyone will listen.
Sorry I misread that first part but the Taliban, ISIS and Al Qaeda is laughable. Their ideologies were not connected to a State (initially) correct but they are more complex than what you are saying. They all have status quos and those who call shots because they're all organizations. Which requires organizing. The Taliban is now a governing authority of Afghanistan again which means they are connected to a government.
Plankton also listed conventional wars, so I don’t know why you assumed the US hasn’t fought one since WW2. Also, don’t know why you’re saying Japan was nuked for zero reason when they wanted to surrender while keeping occupied land. Unconditional surrender is what America wanted from Japan. Don’t feel like arguing with someone right now anyway, just wanted to throw my two cents in there.
Nah it was unnecessary. They had been planning to surrender anyways but America wanted to use the Atomic Bombs anyway.
- Jul 31, 2022·edited·1 replyPlankton
Any US war against China would be a coalition war.
The invasion of Iraq (2003) didn’t include 20 countries.
Not commenting on if the wars were good or not, only that they are conventional wins, contradicting your assertion.
You are incorrect that China is more technologically advanced and resource independent than the US. You also are minimizing the extreme gap in military capability between the two. US air and naval power is untouchable, as well as logistical capability. Any war not fought on the Chinese mainland is an auto win for the US
I agree it would be a coalition war on both sides.
Iraq was over 20 countries. It was literally called Multi-National Force – Iraq.
Those military conflicts in the Middle East were not won, not even conventionally. Though the debate on what it means to "Win a War" is still ongoing while some say you must replace the previous government's political system with another, others think just toppling the government is enough.
From my research and a quick google search on American internet, it seems like China has the upper hand Technologically.
scmp.com/tech/tech-war/article/3159107/us-china-tech-war-china-overtake-america-core-21st-century
The military capability argument is not one I care to have right now but China has bigger military altogether. America does have crazy ass military technology but to me haven't shown the capabilities to fight an opponent not in extreme poverty or resource scarce. 
Jul 31, 2022·1 replyJT is ElectricHow though? They haven’t shown they can win a “conventional war” since WW2 my dawg. They didnt defeat enemies with literally a fragment of the resources they have. Taliban, ISIS and Al Qaeda literally still exists and hold significant land in their areas. The Taliban literally controls Afghanistan now.
So you think America (without nukes) can defeat an enemy that is more unified, technologically advanced, and with more economic independence than the others? America depends on China for many resources, not the other way around.
Also: They literally nuked Japan for no reason when they were defeated in combat by the Soviets and Americans. You dont know history if you think Americans “won the hearts and minds” of Imperial Japan. They still hated Westerners especially after their Great Empire was dishonored in combat and massacres were committed against them.
china is not economically independent lol they heavily depend on the strait of malacca for food and oil which their navy couldn't readily defend if the US wanted to blockade it.
- Jul 31, 2022·2 repliesSolidSnaku
china is not economically independent lol they heavily depend on the strait of malacca for food and oil which their navy couldn't readily defend if the US wanted to blockade it.
You misinterpreted what I am saying.
China is more economically independent than the others. As in the countries America normally wars with like Afghanistan, Iraq etc . China is a superpower LMAO. - Jul 31, 2022JT is Electric
You misinterpreted what I am saying.
China is more economically independent than the others. As in the countries America normally wars with like Afghanistan, Iraq etc . China is a superpower LMAO.in that sense yeah
- Jul 31, 2022JT is Electric
I agree it would be a coalition war on both sides.
Iraq was over 20 countries. It was literally called Multi-National Force – Iraq.
Those military conflicts in the Middle East were not won, not even conventionally. Though the debate on what it means to "Win a War" is still ongoing while some say you must replace the previous government's political system with another, others think just toppling the government is enough.
From my research and a quick google search on American internet, it seems like China has the upper hand Technologically.
https://www.scmp.com/tech/tech-war/article/3159107/us-china-tech-war-china-overtake-america-core-21st-century
The military capability argument is not one I care to have right now but China has bigger military altogether. America does have crazy ass military technology but to me haven't shown the capabilities to fight an opponent not in extreme poverty or resource scarce.That was the occupation force. I’m strictly talking about the ‘03 invasion and conflict against Saddam’s military. Saddam’s military was absolutely defeated conventionally. To even mount an invasion that far from the homeland is something only the US can do.
Compare China’s naval fleet to US. US has 11 aircraft carriers and 9 amphibious assault ships (mini carriers) China has 3 carriers all of which are smaller than each US carrier and non nuclear powered. China’s navy is larger on paper but made up of smaller assets. Russia’s navy is also “larger” than the US navy but is widely considered to be a joke. The USAF is the largest air force in the world, and the US navy is the second largest air force in the world.
China’s biggest advantage is their focus on domestic manufacturing and their manpower advantage, but the naval, air and logistical advantages of the Allied countries are so overwhelming I just can’t see China winning a conflict.
- Jul 31, 2022JT is Electric
You misinterpreted what I am saying.
China is more economically independent than the others. As in the countries America normally wars with like Afghanistan, Iraq etc . China is a superpower LMAO.I wouldn’t consider them a superpower until they can project force far past their borders, and until their currency makes up at least like 20% of world reserves. For now they are just a world power.
- Jul 31, 2022JT is Electric
I never said the US win the hearts and minds of Imperial Japan. I said their government surrendered. As for Taliban, ISIS, and Al Qaeda, they aren’t a military controlled by a government. They won’t stand down because they’re an ideology, extremists, etc. There is no one guy in those groups that’ll tell them all to stand down and everyone will listen.
Sorry I misread that first part but the Taliban, ISIS and Al Qaeda is laughable. Their ideologies were not connected to a State (initially) correct but they are more complex than what you are saying. They all have status quos and those who call shots because they're all organizations. Which requires organizing. The Taliban is now a governing authority of Afghanistan again which means they are connected to a government.
Plankton also listed conventional wars, so I don’t know why you assumed the US hasn’t fought one since WW2. Also, don’t know why you’re saying Japan was nuked for zero reason when they wanted to surrender while keeping occupied land. Unconditional surrender is what America wanted from Japan. Don’t feel like arguing with someone right now anyway, just wanted to throw my two cents in there.
Nah it was unnecessary. They had been planning to surrender anyways but America wanted to use the Atomic Bombs anyway.
!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCRTgtpC-GoYes, the Taliban is a government now, but like I said. There is no one that controls all of the Taliban, ISIS, Al Qaeda. They are organized but not in the sense that you cut off the head the rest will die off. A lot of terrorist leaders have been killed through out the US’ time in the Middle East and Afghanistan. They’re leaders of their own groups, but if they die someone else takes their place. It’ll be a blow to them but they’ll come back with someone else leading.
As for that Japan video, I can’t watch it right now fully but iirc Shaun mentions something about the bombs only being dropped because of racism. That’s a lie, considering America was also planning to drop the nukes on the Germans lol. If you like to read, this is a pretty good link to read about the nukes, soviets, invasion of Japan and etc.
ldsd.org/cms/lib/PA09000083/Centricity/Domain/93/Frank_Ending%20the%20Pacific%20War.pdf
