there’s more but most true plants actually arent even successful

and i wouldnt consider chance a plant - his come up is very documented - but his "ïndie" schtick is a verified false image he was using

When billie eilish first blew up everyone outside of the site was tlking about her being an industry plant

The clear cut definition has to be someone who pretends to be underground or had an underground to mainstream blow up as an independent or no major backing.

Rory fit that. Chance fits that. Icy Narco was picked up by affiliates of Lil Pump.

Might be like 20 people from the past decade who fits that guideline.

Nah Meg didnt and Ice Spice's push was mainly through collabs.

clairo was a plant

The plant is the false 100% organic growth with the money/machine push behind them.

Everything else is just marketing with your label.

I think the hook on Nissan Altima is legitimately one of the worst in the last 5 years and her whole thing doesn't really connect with me. It's stylistically like the cilantro thing some people have... just not for ya boy

BUT I saw tons of women posting here throughout this time and I personally know plenty of women who really, really love her

She represents a blind spot for me I don't accuse someone to be a plant because I personally can't really pinpoint what their mainstream appeal is. I am decidedly NOT her audience

you may disagree but this is the talent

definitely

Distinguishing between a marketing push and collabs

it's just missing fred again ugly mug

Ya even before that tho concidering the term originated on ktt

An example of someone who I think is undoubtedly talented but it's impossible to ignore their connections

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Oh for sure! I thought u were saying this was the frst instance or somethng

collabs are a form of marketing. But Ice depends more on collabs where as Doechii is being marketed for being her. nothing wrong with that btw.

clairo went from slop to some well produced pop though

rich kid clairo ripped charles but she did enough to spin her own thing i think

This has gone way too far

Also Lana Del Rey is probably ground zero for modern day plant talk

The biggest thing about what I believed to be the most common similarities between alleged plants is lying about their upbringing and family situations

Zero correlation coon

Boooooo

you're doing hieroglyphs now