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  • quadra

    Why lie

    Something you should ask yourself

  • Mar 13
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    Not an "industry plant" but she has been prematurely fast tracked to the grammy stage and to mainstream platforms all over. and that is whats inorganic about her recent success and accolades. folks are using the term industry plant because that is the closest word they know to articulate what they see happening. I could see her maybe getting one grammy nomination but to actually win the rap album and perform and recieve awards newly created by highly reputable publications is all extremely unwarranted. So again, not an industry plant but TDE is jumping the gun and pulling some serious strings very obviously which they have the power to do so.

  • This would be like equivalent to if Kendrick won best rap album for Section.80 and performed at the Grammys and was doing gq interviews and was on all major platforms the whole nine all BEFORE we even knew what a good kid maad city was. Wouldve felt a bit weird and industry plant-ish. He didnt recieve this same push until after gkmc was released and hailed as classic.

  • u ok jay

    every time somebody gets called an industry plant, i just wonder who makes the cut and who doesn't. almost everyone's favorite artists who are touching the charts are backed by labels. a label favors them, gives them money, publishes their music and promotes it. wouldn't most popular artists be industry plants by those standards? is the conversation about how they were scouted, or is it about them having less talent? is it like somebody never made music, a label saw them and said "oh you're gonna make music now" and magically turned them into a superstar? i just don't get it. almost all of them were grinding for stardom before they blew up

    From what I researched, Industry Plants are basically hit or miss just like any other artists now

    Back then it was easier to hide and industry plant (unless they were an obvious artist clone) because the public didn’t know about the concept at the time. But now it’s public knowledge to the point that it’s hard for an artist to breakout without getting that label

    An Industry Plant would be carefully developed artistically and personality wise until they get shown to the public but the caviat is that they appear “indie” then suddenly sign to a label which is where the backlash comes in. Now even though they might get marketing dollars behind them, it doesn’t guarantee their success unless they somehow make it work because people still have to organically support you at the end of the day

  • OP didn’t even include a tweet in his post?

  • Old Man Robin
    https://twitter.com/noz/status/1899956398114693422

    Ngl, he hit the nail on the head with most of the Doechii discourse on this site Bunch of people who can't understand that just because they don't fw the artist doesn't mean everyone else agrees

  • Mar 13
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    there's DEFINITELY been some botted tweets, at least, and y'all know it

  • Mar 13
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    Shelby

    there's DEFINITELY been some botted tweets, at least, and y'all know it

    Its marketing at the end of the day. The Audiomack guy basically said they are marketing her heavy.

  • Dont know if the botted tweets with barely any engagement are a good look. This just results in unrealistic expectation in terms of what the music is supposed to for numbers.

    They wanna turn these artists into superstars without even having the commercial success music wise to back it up. It always gonna look weird.

  • Anecdotal but the people I’ve seen give Doechii the most love are the people that were in love with Lizzo a few years back

  • Mafia Boss

    Its marketing at the end of the day. The Audiomack guy basically said they are marketing her heavy.

    500k likes on a random tweet with 9M views and 300 comments is f***ing insane lmao that's Cristiano numbers

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    Punch turning up on Ye now

  • Mar 16
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    Marleezy

    Not an "industry plant" but she has been prematurely fast tracked to the grammy stage and to mainstream platforms all over. and that is whats inorganic about her recent success and accolades. folks are using the term industry plant because that is the closest word they know to articulate what they see happening. I could see her maybe getting one grammy nomination but to actually win the rap album and perform and recieve awards newly created by highly reputable publications is all extremely unwarranted. So again, not an industry plant but TDE is jumping the gun and pulling some serious strings very obviously which they have the power to do so.

    prematurely fast tracked?

    she’s been active on YouTube and SoundCloud since 2016 until she signed with TDE around COVID 4 years into grinding then was on BET stage 2022, had her breakthrough hit 2023 and on Grammy stage 2025

    idk how 9 years of extensive content you can find with 5 years being signed is premature but hey

  • Mar 16
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    Valentine

    prematurely fast tracked?

    she’s been active on YouTube and SoundCloud since 2016 until she signed with TDE around COVID 4 years into grinding then was on BET stage 2022, had her breakthrough hit 2023 and on Grammy stage 2025

    idk how 9 years of extensive content you can find with 5 years being signed is premature but hey

    just cause she's been active for nine years and signed for five doesn't mean she' deserving of best rap album grammy. Her body of work and alligator bites doesn't equate to the accolades and attention she's recieving. I'm saying she's not there yet quality-wise but thats just my opinion. She's everywhere and in more places and spaces than her actual music is.

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    i just saw the other tweet of kanye towards kendrick
    , the one about being cart's "actual twin" and supposed collab album??

    LOL

    so the nigga really was just jealous and mad legit at a rap lyric and him not being on the album but kendrick is and took the "eveil twin" thing to heart LMAO

    he then cancels the album because kendrick called carti his "evil twin" - grown ass man b carti could be his son straight loser s***

  • Mar 16
    OMEGA
    https://twitter.com/iamstillpunch/status/1900586275411009635

    Punch turning up on Ye now

    You being click baity that post ain’t s***

  • Mar 16

    30 track album and you still didnt make the cut but 4 travis feats and 3 kendrick feats did, yeah thats sad

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    Marleezy

    just cause she's been active for nine years and signed for five doesn't mean she' deserving of best rap album grammy. Her body of work and alligator bites doesn't equate to the accolades and attention she's recieving. I'm saying she's not there yet quality-wise but thats just my opinion. She's everywhere and in more places and spaces than her actual music is.

    and you’re entitled to your opinion, but respectfully, how do you know all the places her music is? and those in the academy and plenty others think she is deserving so, it doesn’t mean she was fast tracked lmao

  • Valentine

    prematurely fast tracked?

    she’s been active on YouTube and SoundCloud since 2016 until she signed with TDE around COVID 4 years into grinding then was on BET stage 2022, had her breakthrough hit 2023 and on Grammy stage 2025

    idk how 9 years of extensive content you can find with 5 years being signed is premature but hey

    This is literally the artist development people were craving for from modern artist that was a huge topic from when Ice Spice was hot.

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    The younger generation of rap fans have witnessed very few artists from their era break into the type of space that Doechii has. It’s wild watching them assume it just must be inorganic because it’s such a foreign thing for them to see

  • Marleezy

    Not an "industry plant" but she has been prematurely fast tracked to the grammy stage and to mainstream platforms all over. and that is whats inorganic about her recent success and accolades. folks are using the term industry plant because that is the closest word they know to articulate what they see happening. I could see her maybe getting one grammy nomination but to actually win the rap album and perform and recieve awards newly created by highly reputable publications is all extremely unwarranted. So again, not an industry plant but TDE is jumping the gun and pulling some serious strings very obviously which they have the power to do so.

    labels got trolls that get in here and stir the narrative thats theres no such thing as a "plant"

  • NunTheWiser

    The younger generation of rap fans have witnessed very few artists from their era break into the type of space that Doechii has. It’s wild watching them assume it just must be inorganic because it’s such a foreign thing for them to see

    TALK TO EM.

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    Valentine

    and you’re entitled to your opinion, but respectfully, how do you know all the places her music is? and those in the academy and plenty others think she is deserving so, it doesn’t mean she was fast tracked lmao

    honestly im not necessarily "against" whats happening and I respect your stance as well. I'm not tapped in with her, not a fan so I just don't see it.

  • Mar 16
    Water Giver

    i just saw the other tweet of kanye towards kendrick
    , the one about being cart's "actual twin" and supposed collab album??

    LOL

    so the nigga really was just jealous and mad legit at a rap lyric and him not being on the album but kendrick is and took the "eveil twin" thing to heart LMAO

    he then cancels the album because kendrick called carti his "evil twin" - grown ass man b carti could be his son straight loser s***

    I think cancelled cuz UMG/Interscope wouldn't let it release
    But he's definitely in his feelings over kdot getting on the album

  • Water Giver

    i just saw the other tweet of kanye towards kendrick
    , the one about being cart's "actual twin" and supposed collab album??

    LOL

    so the nigga really was just jealous and mad legit at a rap lyric and him not being on the album but kendrick is and took the "eveil twin" thing to heart LMAO

    he then cancels the album because kendrick called carti his "evil twin" - grown ass man b carti could be his son straight loser s***

    we need to retire the term twin ASAP never seen slang get ran to the ground this quick