I don’t disagree these magazines are performative I just think the phrase ‘too many’ is a lil loaded. You think white women are disproportionately recognized on this list compared to the actual quality of white women albums this year? I liked a good bit of white women music this year but that’s me
You raise a fair point lol
Do you feel like the Boygenius, Mitski, and Paramore albums are all really top 10 worthy? I guess that’s what caught my eye and I find boygenius and mitski exceptionally bland. You would think that they’re Carole King or Joni Mitchell but they essentially make wallpaper music.
I honestly believe a huge amount of the praise Phoebe Bridgers and co receive is because they were successfully able to align themselves with progressive ideals and essentially co opt them for their own gain (as many white women do). Their relevance has much more to do with “identity” than music from my perspective.
Then another top 10 spot is Olivia Rodriguo who I know isn’t technically white but is pretty much marketed as a white passing girl, maybe I shouldn’t bother including this part cause it’s a touchy subject but yeah
That’s a decent chunk of the top 10. I don’t really think white or white passing women made 40% of the top 10 albums this year tbh. It’s just that they hold the perfect middle ground between progressive and safe for a publication like this
Teezo is more like MGK trying to do rock albums. Yves is just a talented artist
You’re probably right tbh, low key once teezo came out I grouped them together, I was probably wrong for that
These lists coming out at the end of November is so stupid.
How is the Best Album of 2023 an album that was released in 2022?
There’s no reason these lists can’t come out like December 15th through December 22nd
Also SremmLife 4 being on the list and no Playing Robots Into Heaven or Utopia is utterly hilarious
If yachty made Jackman they'd love it and if Harlow made let's start here they'd call it trash
Kinda like how if Yachty was white you’d be stanning him
You raise a fair point lol
Do you feel like the Boygenius, Mitski, and Paramore albums are all really top 10 worthy? I guess that’s what caught my eye and I find boygenius and mitski exceptionally bland. You would think that they’re Carole King or Joni Mitchell but they essentially make wallpaper music.
I honestly believe a huge amount of the praise Phoebe Bridgers and co receive is because they were successfully able to align themselves with progressive ideals and essentially co opt them for their own gain (as many white women do). Their relevance has much more to do with “identity” than music from my perspective.
Then another top 10 spot is Olivia Rodriguo who I know isn’t technically white but is pretty much marketed as a white passing girl, maybe I shouldn’t bother including this part cause it’s a touchy subject but yeah
That’s a decent chunk of the top 10. I don’t really think white or white passing women made 40% of the top 10 albums this year tbh. It’s just that they hold the perfect middle ground between progressive and safe for a publication like this
Haha for sure I see where you coming from. I liked the boy genius album haven’t heard the Mitski but yea I was pretty underwhelmed by paramore and Olivia this year and I’m fans of both
Kinda like how if Yachty was white you’d be stanning him
If yachty was white AND talented then yes why not? I don't think skin color would play a factor in that though it'll be because of the skill. And I like Yachty
I feel like they’re one of those new crop of artists that is just “alt” for the literal sake of it. That was probably harsh but I cannot stand yves or teezo because I get overwhelming fake, pandering, performative vibes. Aka hacky
I'm not even a fan but this isn't the case
These lists coming out at the end of November is so stupid.
How is the Best Album of 2023 an album that was released in 2022?
There’s no reason these lists can’t come out like December 15th through December 22nd
Yeah must have something to do with the marketing of music/movies/games where the whole entertainment industry is in a ridiculous goddamn rush to find out who can claim Blank Of The Year or something cause your average person doesn't want to skip December every year lol
ok their top 100 songs list is so much worse than the album list
rollingstone.com/music/music-lists/best-songs-of-2023-1234879541/foo-fighters-under-you-1234897411