Lupe Fiasco the level 5 but trash? How that work? 😂

this is stupid as f***

The 5 levels of bowel movements

1 - Farting

2 - S***ting

3 - Sharting

4 - Diarrhea

5 - Breaking the toilet

end of transmission

lyric writing but yea for sure @op not even sarcastically ur spot on

not a bad thread idea

finally some quality in music section

F&L, TC & T&Y going head to head with any rap classic

hate op’s hypothesis

Comparing rappers to hoopers is more thoughtful discourse than this nut ass take

Don't forget Drogas Wave, even if the music is slightly weaker

I'd say DAMN and Mr Morale is more arguable for level 5

no lie’s detected

man im eating

There are good and bad examples of every level so implying there's a hierarchy to them doesn't really work

I'd also factor in the dimension of actual song writing as in structure and composition

thread reminds me of

Idk about that. Making your message cryptic and inaccessible isn’t a genius thing to do necessarily. It’s actually one of the biggest problems people have with the information gatekeeping in academic spaces.

I personally find poeticism in lyrical content is much more important than convoluted entendres and mysterious wordplay. lyrics can be very profound and emotionally resonant while still being accessible and thoughtfully crafted.
Like I don’t think a song that’s uses an allegory to open up into social issues is on a higher level than a song that uses disjointed romanticisms to create an emotional listen.

They both can excel at what they’re trying to do, involve very different skill sets, and can be incredibly enjoyable experiences all while taking a very talented writer to make.

Like Lupe Fiasco & Tracy Thorn couldn’t be further away lyrically, but I wouldn’t say one is objectively better than the other even if I have a preference

Great thread

I was thinking about writing in music, and I started to realize everything is about themes . What really makes writing captivating is this eternal struggle to correlate words with meaning

I used to romanticize the difficulty of imbuing lyrics with meaning just like this, but in reality it’s the standard of fitting lyrics into end rhymes that makes it more difficult than writing meaningful prose

Speak on it

give me good production and flows over all that

I think the best song writings are the ones that don’t need overly complex lyrics to get its message across