Quite literally opened with my acknowledgment that white academia is colonial and that I agree that it is a problem that required immense rectification and compensation , especially when we’re dealing with black art

That does not mean we should disavow sociology and critical theory. Should we disavow gravity and heliocentrism because they were theorized by white people? No

Sociology, just like any science, is a tool of material a***ysis. Your attitude should be oriented towards how that tool is wielded, not its very existence.

Colonial sociology is a problem, not sociology in and of itself.

The way I see it is, Keyshawn Johnson shouldn’t be breaking down the NBA

sociology is the scientific study of human society founded in a society that silenced women entirely per their religion

the tool of material a***ysis you are defending was founded on principles that did not include the entire voice of everyone in the present society, trickling down into modern universities such as these and their separation from culture. there needs to be entirely new mindsets and systems formed today on how to handle these conversations, not continue with the present constructs that were founded unfairly centuries ago

Would rather breakdown the lyrics of a Kendrick song than learn about some old white composer from 12 million years ago

I think, speaking of Hip Hop specifically, its foundation is in struggle, and arguably anti-establishment rhetoric among other things, but those are some of the stronger themes of the culture. So to have it studied, and taught in an institution or by people who are seen as the oppressors of those within the very culture, it will always be a grating experience.

i wonder (for a couple years now) if in the future rap is gonna be seen the same way as jazz in the sense that like for a lot of people jazz is a bunch of noise and they cant connect with the music at all

i mean you already have folks saying rap is overstimulating lol

to think, the school is already a private brand and now they using black celebrity voices as an additional marketing tool to continue securing their customer base

i cant rly articulate why but i completely agree, altho 9th wonder also taught a class on music which i didnt take but im sure is great

ngl i went to a one day lecture on hip hop at ucr but the person giving the lecture was krs one so prolly not the same thing as what @op is complaining about

don’t remember anything from it tho s*** was over a decade ago

learning from da teacha

Political Marxism has been the foundation of effective, if not successful, liberation movements across the entire world, especially in Africa and Black America.

How are you gonna say its approach to culture and society is oppressive, especially on something as inconsequential as the society within which it was founded? Marxism was critical OF that culture!

If you spoke to any academic in this manner they’d laugh in your face. You sound like a white liberal who’s opposed to anti-colonialism!

Also you HAAAATTEEE gay people so get the f*** out w that logic bro

I took a class in college couple years back and no joke, this dude taught this is america to us.

It’s s*** like this that makes me cringe til my face hurts

Rather neither tbh

fusing art and the critical theory of academia is a way for us to theorize about the causes of, reactions to, and effects of so many things that shape who we are as individuals and populations.

Vehemently disagree btw. And I’d add modern academia has contributed to the present vacuum of the lack of leadership within black America (elitism and not knowing how to meet the proletariat where they’re at nor how to relate to them)

And this post explains my point so much lol.

@proper and for everyone else itt that brings up artists teaching said classes

If the emphasis is educating people on black history i think its fine

But the person teaching SHOULD be black

The issue with focusing on the music without context is you wont be able to accurately interpret the lyrics or culture and where it all come from

Ultimately the type of people who need to learn black history would probably never take these courses