I haven't heard any of the docs I work with mention anything about it, and they're a morally righteous bunch. I trust them 🤷‍♂️

Yes

It depends on the field of course and not everybody will have the same opinion. I'm not stating this as fact but it comes from somebody who has worked in this exact niche

so there’s nothing that backs up that statement?

Which one ?

Yeah but they're general practice and senior health, if this was having an effect on people they'd be raising an alarm about it

I think people are mostly curious about what the doctors you spoke with are saying, like is this from an "ethics of medical research" perspective or a "this has caused health problems" perspective?

Oh damn yea ur right, i am now team anti vax

We sure were

Well here in my country doctors are raising concerns about it and there's more and more documentaries popping up by our official country broadcasters.

The concern the doctor I spoke with is that from a ethics standpoint it is appalling, there wasn't enough testing, we basically did a huge human experiment. mRNA treatment was used on patients that had no other choice anyway ( if you have cancer why would you care if you have some immuno complications

Yeah a group of people op is claiming as medical professionals said vaccines were a hoax

This also coming from the guy who said he works with the worlds first sentient AI

Wow so you're my enemy now. You played yourself

no lol my gf told me about it

Dirty pumpkin spice can't read lol

My honest reaction

Your post above sounds like some classic anti vax rhetoric

Of course there wasn't enough testing everything had to be rushed because of the circumstances. You're acting like people started growing third nipples or turned into vampires from i am legend

If anything the manufacturing and distribution of the vaccine was a miracle given the timeframe. Everything was given the green stamp and all the typical research red tape was removed. Over 1.6M have died due to covid in america. Who knows how many more died as a result of covid but weren't counted because they weren't tested. Think about all the lives that were saved for you and a bunch of alex jones with master's degrees to be trying to act like ethics compliance officers.

Ask yourself where the ethics are in not doing anything and just allowing people to continue to die because you're following "protocol"

Got 3 more years of fellowship after I finish this year of Residency

It never ends

COVID brain is a motherfucker.

You're too concentrated on following your narrative.

It is a miracle that it happened this fast indeed. Yet ask people in the field and they'll tell you that using a experimental treatment like this isn't ethical and that the testing is inadequate.

Why did biontech and such free themselves of ANY responsibility when normally in the law the manufacturer is liable for damages? Because they obviously rushed it through to make millions. That's not anti vax, that's pro ethics. Let's throw everything out the window and just skip the safety protocols shall we

I promise you this isn't happening

Doctors don't give a f*** about the politics of doing things. If my favorite politician tried to tell me about doing my job he'd get a big middle finger and a "you don't know how to do my job, so stop trying to interfere"

We also don't care about making our hospitals money or making pharmaceutical companies money, I don't know where people got the notion that medical professionals are in it for the money. If my goal in life was just to make money, I wouldn't have been a doctor

I left the thread f***ing dumber than I already was

Source ?

Imagine reading all those news stories about doctors and nurses being at their wits end because of this pandemic and thinking “Oh yeah, they’re all about that sweet sweet dinero”.

Yes of course it's not like a mafia where the doctors are paid.

And yes the people around you might not be for or against it, yet the doctors I talked to have a different opinion which shows that there's different views.

None of those directly involved with mRNA treatment in oncology would have given the green light to use this en Masse ( the perspective from the professionals I know )

Not the doctors... The companies that sell the vaccines. As the doctor in this thread here pointed out theyre individuals and some hold this opinion some that one

Lmao