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  • EuroNymous 🦘
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    Aug 23, 2020
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    nocomment

    im sorry what?

    Basically this is what's happening in the simplest form

    Basically old media wants a cut of the profits and access of the algorithm that Google

    This dangerous since the 3 or 4 big news corps (fairfax/9, news corp, 7 media, cbs/10) get access to this algorithm which they can manipulate to their pleasure. News media in here is pretty s*** as it is and will get way worse if this pass as it will diluted the already s*** media and f*** over independent. Google benefits on open media since it makes them more money + gives consumers more sources and perspectives

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    EuroNymous

    Basically this is what's happening in the simplest form

    Basically old media wants a cut of the profits and access of the algorithm that Google

    This dangerous since the 3 or 4 big news corps (fairfax/9, news corp, 7 media, cbs/10) get access to this algorithm which they can manipulate to their pleasure. News media in here is pretty s*** as it is and will get way worse if this pass as it will diluted the already s*** media and f*** over independent. Google benefits on open media since it makes them more money + gives consumers more sources and perspectives

    ehh f*** em all

    heres my messy stream of thoughts:

    google keeps people in their own personal bias bubble just like the rest of the media.

    if they made google do all this s*** for the media i feel like theres a chance they would just stop providing media sites in search results out of spite. Plus why would google continue showing any media sites if it's a major inconvenience to them. That would be a dream imo lol, I see no reason why I should search an issue and be provided with the same 3 news sites telling me how to think at the top of the results. Idk about you but thats my anecdotal experience with googling current affairs

    I dont know how much money they think google really makes off presenting news sites in searches but I think it might be overestimated lol. Or at least much more indirect and hard to measure

    I always think back to that kanye sacramento speech: "google lied to you. Facebook lied to you."

    As far as I understand, big websites are always going to have better SEO than smaller ones if they're smart about it, so I dont know how/to what extent this "algorithm" stuff would actually change their practice regarding that. From what I read in the ACCC draft the media would be able to read the algorithm but not edit it.
    Imo we should take it one step further and make the entire google algorithm entirely public.

    It's funny, before the world wide web went down this commercial path, many would have assumed it would free journalism from commercialism but it seems it's basically done the opposite. I wonder if there's even a solution.

    Idk if i really understand this issue properly, it all just seems so f***ing stupid to me. Half of me just wants traditional companies and their practices to adapt already without legislative interference and the other half knows that mindlessly embracing a technological free market is horrible for society. I'm very divided and it's a complicated issue so idk

  • EuroNymous 🦘
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    Aug 23, 2020
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    nocomment

    ehh f*** em all

    heres my messy stream of thoughts:

    google keeps people in their own personal bias bubble just like the rest of the media.

    if they made google do all this s*** for the media i feel like theres a chance they would just stop providing media sites in search results out of spite. Plus why would google continue showing any media sites if it's a major inconvenience to them. That would be a dream imo lol, I see no reason why I should search an issue and be provided with the same 3 news sites telling me how to think at the top of the results. Idk about you but thats my anecdotal experience with googling current affairs

    I dont know how much money they think google really makes off presenting news sites in searches but I think it might be overestimated lol. Or at least much more indirect and hard to measure

    I always think back to that kanye sacramento speech: "google lied to you. Facebook lied to you."

    As far as I understand, big websites are always going to have better SEO than smaller ones if they're smart about it, so I dont know how/to what extent this "algorithm" stuff would actually change their practice regarding that. From what I read in the ACCC draft the media would be able to read the algorithm but not edit it.
    Imo we should take it one step further and make the entire google algorithm entirely public.

    It's funny, before the world wide web went down this commercial path, many would have assumed it would free journalism from commercialism but it seems it's basically done the opposite. I wonder if there's even a solution.

    Idk if i really understand this issue properly, it all just seems so f***ing stupid to me. Half of me just wants traditional companies and their practices to adapt already without legislative interference and the other half knows that mindlessly embracing a technological free market is horrible for society. I'm very divided and it's a complicated issue so idk

    do you trust ACCC they are governments back pocket more then even news corp it benefits them if this law passes

    thats the problem thats why i support goggle since they provide a more open internet and what they actually want

    • News Media corporations to manipulate search engines and knowing how they work (no way they ever show this public and they demand lots time to change so they can suit instead second guessing what happens)
    • It will allow them access to user data (which is bad we don't need google and Murdoch access my info)
    • Force services to allow them to censor comments (again bad)
    • this f***s over independent news sources since they not included (only privately owned business are) and i am not too sure about ABC and SBS)

    this is huge and reason why google will fight to the death to support this

    F*** ACCC and f*** google they both as bad each other don't get me wrong but google supports my interest since as more clicks on different website = more money for them

    thats basically how i think about it need to read the bill in full

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    EuroNymous

    do you trust ACCC they are governments back pocket more then even news corp it benefits them if this law passes

    thats the problem thats why i support goggle since they provide a more open internet and what they actually want

    • News Media corporations to manipulate search engines and knowing how they work (no way they ever show this public and they demand lots time to change so they can suit instead second guessing what happens)
    • It will allow them access to user data (which is bad we don't need google and Murdoch access my info)
    • Force services to allow them to censor comments (again bad)
    • this f***s over independent news sources since they not included (only privately owned business are) and i am not too sure about ABC and SBS)

    this is huge and reason why google will fight to the death to support this

    F*** ACCC and f*** google they both as bad each other don't get me wrong but google supports my interest since as more clicks on different website = more money for them

    thats basically how i think about it need to read the bill in full

    i used to have good faith in the accc...

    seems like theyre getting f***ed/compromised along with every other public service thanks to you know who...

    we're really going the way of the usa

  • EuroNymous 🦘
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    Aug 23, 2020
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    i used to have good faith in the accc...

    seems like theyre getting f***ed/compromised along with every other public service thanks to you know who...

    we're really going the way of the usa

    they either sold it or compromise it

    doesn't help that all the supposed left learning media are ran by ex LNP stooges

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    doesn't help ALP under albo is not exciting and greens while i like their policies idk just feels like their too narrow minded and in the past compromised good labor policies (as seen in the gillard era)

    honestly i live in the seat where scomo sits and its literally safest lnp seat in the country so doesn't really matter what i vote for

    might see if their is any alternatives to labor/greens out there because i wanna support left learning candidate

  • EuroNymous 🦘
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    Aug 23, 2020

    f*** shorten would been good tbh

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    doesn't help ALP under albo is not exciting and greens while i like their policies idk just feels like their too narrow minded and in the past compromised good labor policies (as seen in the gillard era)

    honestly i live in the seat where scomo sits and its literally safest lnp seat in the country so doesn't really matter what i vote for

    might see if their is any alternatives to labor/greens out there because i wanna support left learning candidate

    vote 1 hemp party

    world is gonna end kinda soon i just want buds in the meantime

  • EuroNymous 🦘
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    vote 1 hemp party

    world is gonna end kinda soon i just want buds in the meantime

    same i love a good sesh

    still blows my mine bud is illegal tho its not even that harmful and will cut out lots of underground market.

    government will make $$$ also

  • Aug 23, 2020

    went for a walk down my cousins street and I swear to God I saw a trap house lmao 🤣

  • EuroNymous 🦘
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    Aug 27, 2020

    how is everyone?

  • EuroNymous 🦘
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    Aug 30, 2020
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    28 degrees on Thursday

  • Aug 31, 2020
    EuroNymous

    28 degrees on Thursday

    Add me nsw fam

  • Sep 1, 2020
    EuroNymous

    28 degrees on Thursday

    perfect weather tbh

  • man flew to qld knowing he was covid positive lmaooooooooooo

    moving mad out here

  • EuroNymous 🦘
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    Sep 3, 2020

    man i miss the summer weather

    30 degrees

    3rd day of spring

  • Sep 3, 2020
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    Feel sorry for melbournians they can't even go more than 5km except for work / shopping

  • Sep 3, 2020

    Been a beautiful day so far 🤗

  • Sep 5, 2020
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    Anti-maskers got 5 stars on GTA

  • Sep 5, 2020
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    stream evangelion

    Anti-maskers got 5 stars on GTA

    my cousin sent me a srs message if I was going to this LMAO clowns!

  • whiteboy magz

    my cousin sent me a srs message if I was going to this LMAO clowns!

    Oh well now they realise how dumb that idea was

  • Sep 5, 2020
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    does anyone know that alternative zooper dooper that was sort of split into half like a figure 8?

  • Sep 5, 2020
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    g'day mate

  • Sep 5, 2020
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    rwina sawayama

    g'day mate

    sup mate