Like Reeves and Pattison made it very clear their only interest in Batman was doing crime films and Pattison said he doesn't even consider Batman a superhero.

Why force them to work in a system they don't wanna work in when that's like 90% of the complaints about the MCU is that it's too much oversight.

gimme a jason todd movie where robin dies at the end

dcu batman just can’t work unless you wanna do teen titans without a robin which would be stupid

I mean, Reeves doesn't necessarily have a say. While I don't really think it's something that will actually happen or Pattinson really wants to do, I don't think it's outside of the realm of possibility. Money talks and if a script is written that Robert likes while keeping the spirit and tone of Reeves' Batman in tact I'm all for it. Regardless, we've gotten all time great Batman and Superman movies coming off the heels of a dogshit franchise, it's fun to speculate what it would be like to see those characters linked in a universe together that's not dogshit.

I personally have been on the "wait and see and don't force yourself to duplicate Batman franchises" since Gunn was hired but i think the context of The Batman press tour in early 2022 are quite different than the realities of 2025

Reeves was correct to duck any universe connection at all costs during DCEU era. He also understandably has hesitancy towards shared universes and having his work controlled like MCU

But what he's actually done since Gunn was hired kinda makes those past comments feel full of s*** if he said them now honestly. Reeves in 2025 is an active DCU lead producer who is collaborating with Gunn on multiple projects. Its clear they like working together. I don't buy it anymore that his Gotham existing in a world with superheroes changes much. He has such a mandate over Batman projects right now that no one could interfere with his work. He wouldn't be forced to do anything because he's the boss of Batman projects

Epic Crime Saga still continues as is with no affect if some merge were to happen. The Batman canonically did not deny the existence of superheroes, its just laser-focused on Gotham.

"I mean, Reeves doesn't necessarily have a say"

This the funny part to me tho cause like everyone whole thing about the MCU is then forcing people to do certain things and now people want him to abandon his vision for this.

But I'm biased cuz I'm not really a fan of what they did and I want a Comic accurate Batman for once so I'm hating.

For me i don't think we've had a truly great Batman film yet or great Batman and I think that's largely because it's either always super realistic or goes way too fantastical.

I'm ready for a Batman that's both dark and fights Man-Bat with a Robin im off the "He's a vigilante not a superhero" stuff and I don't really want a Batman franchise that avoids the reality that he's a fantastical character in a fantastic world.

Again whatever happens happens and push come to shove id just not watch the stuff but man this be the first real disappointment of this universe for me if they go this route.

I was super excited to get a Bat family, Robin and Teen Titans films so to see It all cancelled to reset and take a decades of just be over Batman in the DCU.

Like I said I'm bias tho and clearly I'm in the minority now but yeah I'd rather he just be left to do his own thing and we get a Batman who does more than crime stuff.

I really hope this happens. The themes of The Batman point to it imo. They intentionally depicted multiple scenes where Bruce's empathy for the mayor's son is emphasized. Then there's him patching things up a bit with Alfred, who he's likely closer with moving forward.

It'd be very odd for Reeves being such a student of Jeph Loeb and already doing his iterations of a Long Halloween and portions of Dark Victory (Sofia, end of Falcones/Maronis, etc..) to skip such an obvious story point at the back half of that book which is the takeaway of Batman years 2-3

I can def see a scenario where Bruce witnesses the death of the Flying Graysons and its just too traumatic that he has to step in and adopt D***. Doesn't mean the kid immediately has the training necessary for Robin, but i think its important he does has a kid of sorts based off how they've already presented this Bruce.

5 and a half years between films is bananas

The way James Gunn speaks about Matt Reeves, you can tell he views him as a colleague and respects him a lot. He's definitely gonna let Matt do his thing with his own Batman universe. If that wasn't the case, we wouldn't have gotten the Penguin series and he wouldn't be so excited for the script to Matt's second Batman movie.

James Gunn speaks on Matt Reeves like he's in an elite tier of directors that he respects and he believes can make the kind of movies they wanna be making at DC. I think The Batman Part 2 will make even more money than the first one did and why take the reins from a director and a team that's dedicated to building a whole other universe around DC characters that you'll ultimately get to enjoy the success of as a co-President of DC?

James Gunn is already pre-occupied with building up the DC and he'll writing/directing many of these projects himself (even if he only sticks to writing/directing Creature Commandos, Peacemaker and any other future Superman movies), that's still a lot of work for a executive at a major film studio. He's definitely happy to have someone like Matt Reeves at the helm of any part of the DC world.

Yes, they're both set at the start of their careers but young is very relative. Corensweat at 32 is relatively young right now but one of the issues with franchise filmmaking is how long it takes to turn these movies over, especially when you're trying to introduce several characters leading up to a big event movie. We might not get a sequel to Superman till Corensweat is 35-36. Pattinson is already 39. He'll be at least 41 when Batman 2 drops and maybe 44-45 when Batman 3 drops.

In comparison, Christian Bale shot all Batman Begins at 30, The Dark Knight at 33 and the Dark Knight Rises at 37.

I think I'm the only one who noticed this because I recently turned 30
but both battinson and corenswet superman are 30 years old in their movies

Who we thinking potential villains are for this sequel?

Court of owls, Hush, Joker even cause of that tease from the first movie

I really hope Robert got into Matts head & influenced him to do Freeze, he mentioned him a few times

But I also think the sequel might dive into Arkham, so maybe Strange, Scarecrow? Idk

How would yall feel if they redesigned Joker to look like this in this universe?

my batman and superman

Hugo Strange, we need someone to challenge Bruce in the public sphere

Strange & Hush would be perfect

The runtime

I think pairing Hugo with a physical threat is the best option

Need Batman to think on his feet more so he can get creative like in the final fight