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  • rvi 🦜
    Mar 13, 2021
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    ithaka

    no one else tried to do some trippy doowop and harmonies s*** like that with weird effects and synths, put to melodies only brian could come up with

    everyone else was either doing generic prog or blues

    well plenty of great creative and experimental s*** at that time too

    like my goat zappa also incorporating doo wop and weird effects

  • Mar 13, 2021
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    ithaka
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    @RVI would it be better for u without the narration?

    !https://youtu.be/dKgOK8ayyG0

    it’s one of my fav bbs piece ever

    @grimes @Come_to_BR @DonutHole @EyesOnTheSmile

    what u think @Womanpuncher69

  • Mar 13, 2021
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    ithaka

    what u think @Womanpuncher69

    listening to clash s/t rn ill check it out later

  • Mar 13, 2021
    Womanpuncher69

    listening to clash s/t rn ill check it out later

    white man in hammersmith palais

  • Mar 13, 2021
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    rvi

    well plenty of great creative and experimental s*** at that time too

    like my goat zappa also incorporating doo wop and weird effects

    link?

  • rvi 🦜
    Mar 13, 2021
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    ithaka

    link?

    well too many to link tbh but

    a doo wop

    tape loops in 66

    i kinda feel like you wouldnt like him though (if u havent tried already)

  • Mar 13, 2021
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    rvi

    well too many to link tbh but

    a doo wop

    !https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nj9nm9_SOvM

    tape loops in 66

    !https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCbIw5D_hCQ

    i kinda feel like you wouldnt like him though (if u havent tried already)

    the first song is great but you really think that’s something that isn’t heard or done anywhere else to be found or compared to? im confused, it’s a classic doowop structure and formula

  • Mar 13, 2021
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    rvi

    well too many to link tbh but

    a doo wop

    !https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nj9nm9_SOvM

    tape loops in 66

    !https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCbIw5D_hCQ

    i kinda feel like you wouldnt like him though (if u havent tried already)

    Did you listen to the classic tape-loop banger John Cage made in '62 that I posted?

  • rvi 🦜
    Mar 13, 2021
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    ithaka

    the first song is great but you really think that’s something that isn’t heard or done anywhere else to be found or compared to? im confused, it’s a classic doowop structure and formula

    nowhere did i say that so i guess thats why youre confused all i said was that zappa made both doo wop and weird effect type s***

    no one else having a doo wop song lead into this

    along with groundbreaking jazz fusion that even predates Miles Davis' fusion stuff, noise, free jazz, spoken word, satire, plain old rock

    my point is that zappa incorporated doo wop into his experimental music pieces as a whole, not necessarily that the doo wop sections themselves are the experimentation, its in the whole structure

    i just dont like the massive hyperbole of "everyone else was just doing prog or blues". i love crediting brians experimentation too but no need to exaggerate acting like hes the only one while everyone else was generic is all. great age for experimental music and infinite amounts beyond generic styles

  • Mar 13, 2021
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    rvi

    nowhere did i say that so i guess thats why youre confused all i said was that zappa made both doo wop and weird effect type s***

    no one else having a doo wop song lead into this

    !https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5xOrp9xhIY

    along with groundbreaking jazz fusion that even predates Miles Davis' fusion stuff, noise, free jazz, spoken word, satire, plain old rock

    my point is that zappa incorporated doo wop into his experimental music pieces as a whole, not necessarily that the doo wop sections themselves are the experimentation, its in the whole structure

    i just dont like the massive hyperbole of "everyone else was just doing prog or blues". i love crediting brians experimentation too but no need to exaggerate acting like hes the only one while everyone else was generic is all. great age for experimental music and infinite amounts beyond generic styles

    huh i guess

  • rvi 🦜
    Mar 13, 2021
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    ithaka

    huh i guess

    but also like i said i have a strong feeling that zappas music wouldnt be your thing for some reason

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    ithaka

    no one else tried to do some trippy doowop and harmonies s*** like that with weird effects and synths, put to melodies only brian could come up with

    everyone else was either doing generic prog or blues

    When is that from

  • Mar 13, 2021
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    Elric

    When is that from

    1972

  • Mar 13, 2021
    rvi

    but also like i said i have a strong feeling that zappas music wouldnt be your thing for some reason

    the avant garde scene isn’t my go to yeh, but ive heard some nice songs from him

  • rvi 🦜
    Mar 13, 2021
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    Elric

    Did you listen to the classic tape-loop banger John Cage made in '62 that I posted?

    link where u posted?

  • Mar 13, 2021
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    ithaka

    1972

    Roxy Music were doing some wild s*** like you described with Eno on board (and melodies only Bryan Ferry could come up with)

  • Mar 13, 2021
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    Elric

    Roxy Music were doing some wild s*** like you described with Eno on board (and melodies only Bryan Ferry could come up with)

    link

  • Mar 13, 2021
    ithaka

    link

    Their debut album is one of the all time great debuts. Takes a bit to sink in but I eventually put it in my top tier of the decade. Lots of 50s rock and doo wop pastiche alongside spacey weird synth s*** from eno.

  • Mar 13, 2021
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    rvi

    is it really one of your absolute fav from beach boys? ever?

    it’s the new smile

  • rvi 🦜
    Mar 13, 2021
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    ithaka

    it’s the new smile

    ok bud thats not salute to nascar

  • Mar 13, 2021
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    rvi

    link where u posted?

    It's on the last page near the top

  • rvi 🦜
    Mar 13, 2021
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    Elric

    It's on the last page near the top

    donda esta

  • Mar 13, 2021
    rvi

    donda esta

    f***ing eastern europeans

  • Mar 13, 2021
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    rvi

    ok bud thats not salute to nascar

    😎 got my p**** wet 😎😎

  • rvi 🦜
    Mar 13, 2021
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    ithaka
    !https://youtu.be/lWldHJqHQrA

    😎 got my p**** wet 😎😎

    i dont have time 4 dis im about to listen to beach boys party!