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  • Apr 10, 2021
    fiveprestos

    Btw you sent me some tom waits songs to check out and i feel like an ass for not getting around to responding, so formally, thank you and i apologize, they were great suggestions

  • Apr 10, 2021
    Camille Golightly

    visualise a volkswagen van

  • Apr 10, 2021
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    fiveprestos

    Btw you sent me some tom waits songs to check out and i feel like an ass for not getting around to responding, so formally, thank you and i apologize, they were great suggestions

    dont remember which ones they were lol but you should try some beach boys too! the album surf’s up perhaps

  • Apr 10, 2021
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    Elric

    lets not rush the korg sitar solo

    i know it boomed in the sixties scene but it’s generally in small dose i feel it’s still greatly underuse instrument for some really coool s***

  • Apr 10, 2021

    speaking of - all i wanna do alt version with sitar, the only bbs song to feature one:

  • Apr 10, 2021
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    ithaka

    i know it boomed in the sixties scene but it’s generally in small dose i feel it’s still greatly underuse instrument for some really coool s***

    Agreed but i feel like Mike did not achieve the same level of transcendence that George did on their Indian retreat and him using it at that point just feels like a white douchebag appropriation

  • Apr 10, 2021
    Elric

    Agreed but i feel like Mike did not achieve the same level of transcendence that George did on their Indian retreat and him using it at that point just feels like a white douchebag appropriation

    mike most likely hated india 💀

  • Apr 10, 2021
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    not to bring back this topic just think it would be a band @spongebob @Noir like (and i tagged them when ktt was acting funny so not sure if they got it)

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    Apr 10, 2021
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    ithaka

    not to bring back this topic just think it would be a band @spongebob @Noir like (and i tagged them when ktt was acting funny so not sure if they got it)

    !https://youtu.be/sOR4-pFkPxg!https://youtu.be/QV-T3Y1W6Ds

    pretty solid tracks

  • Apr 10, 2021
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    sponge bob

    pretty solid tracks

    we were arguing over it yesterday bc i brought them up saying it’s beatles af and no one would agree

    anyway whole album is samey as these if you into it

  • Apr 10, 2021
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    ithaka

    not to bring back this topic just think it would be a band @spongebob @Noir like (and i tagged them when ktt was acting funny so not sure if they got it)

    !https://youtu.be/sOR4-pFkPxg!https://youtu.be/QV-T3Y1W6Ds

    Never heard of them, I'll give em a spin

  • sponge bob đŸ§œ
    Apr 10, 2021
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    ithaka

    we were arguing over it yesterday bc i brought them up saying it’s beatles af and no one would agree

    anyway whole album is samey as these if you into it

    what type a dummies don’t hear the beatles in those tracks

  • Apr 10, 2021
    Noir

    Never heard of them, I'll give em a spin

    yeah they some obscure act - i found them during my big power pop diggin

  • Apr 10, 2021
    sponge bob

    what type a dummies don’t hear the beatles in those tracks

    THANK YOU

    F U C K thought i was going crazy itt

  • Apr 10, 2021
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    there’s no way because by the beatles has no inspiration whatsoever from the bbs but ive never find or heard anything on that - as if it would be something out of line to put together

    but i hardly believe an acapella song made out of harmonies vocals in 1969 post pet sounds and smile has no connection whatsoever

    @RVI @Elric any expertize to bring to this? (legit no idea who else on ktt would know about the beatles like that other than saying they’re goat and white album is amazing - if you do please tag them)

  • Apr 10, 2021
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    like no one else in 1969 were recording tracks like this - at all

    yet of all the times paul has brought up the bbs over the decades he has never mentioned because, but here there and everywhere? how is this one more obvious than the other?

    so many questions

  • Apr 10, 2021
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    ithaka

    there’s no way because by the beatles has no inspiration whatsoever from the bbs but ive never find or heard anything on that - as if it would be something out of line to put together

    but i hardly believe an acapella song made out of harmonies vocals in 1969 post pet sounds and smile has no connection whatsoever

    @RVI @Elric any expertize to bring to this? (legit no idea who else on ktt would know about the beatles like that other than saying they’re goat and white album is amazing - if you do please tag them)

    not sure what youre asking here

  • rvi 🐾
    Apr 10, 2021
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    ithaka

    there’s no way because by the beatles has no inspiration whatsoever from the bbs but ive never find or heard anything on that - as if it would be something out of line to put together

    but i hardly believe an acapella song made out of harmonies vocals in 1969 post pet sounds and smile has no connection whatsoever

    @RVI @Elric any expertize to bring to this? (legit no idea who else on ktt would know about the beatles like that other than saying they’re goat and white album is amazing - if you do please tag them)

    i think Because was probably influenced in some way just because they were big beach boys fans, like maybe they didnt set out to make it that way (probably not imo) but I am sure the thought crossed their minds during recording that it was sounding good in a same way that beach boys type harmonies did. maybe Because wasn't consciously inspired by Beach Boys, and instead it was just influenced/continuation by previous stuff Beatles were doing that was already inspired by beach boys, and their (Paul's?) personal taste in harmonies which of course included beach boys stuff that they loved. same thing I feel with Sun King. I kinda hesitate to say that absolutely anything with somewhat Beach Boys harmonies was directly influenced by them instead of possibly just being influenced by the fact that those Beach Boys harmonies had already worked themselves into the musical lexicon. In a weird way, I feel like that might actually be saying more about Beach Boys; its one thing to have people consciously trying to copy you but when they end up sounding like you just by nature of your style being influential across the musical landscape it feels bigger. A***ogy I just thought of is tons of 70s guitarists having obvious Jimi Hendrix influence without consciously thinking "i'm gonna try to sound like Hendrix", just because the guitar style completely worked its way into the fabric of everything

    Here There and Everywhere probably gets mentioned more (especially by Paul himself) because it iirc it was conscious effort to sound like Beach Boys. where Because/Sun King might sound like Beach Boys vocals but I can believe that the Beatles didn't specifically have them in mind while recording. and I kinda feel like the overall mood of Here There and Everywhere sounds more like Beach Boys. Also IIRC Because/Sun King are both more Lennon songs so it makes sense that Paul, who was bigger BBs fan anyway i thought, wouldnt mention them and what inspired them. Now that I think of it thats probably the simple answer, maybe if Lennon was alive he would have mentioned those songs along with beach boys. i probably rambled a lot. also of course dont want to act like Beach Boys completely invented harmonies or anything like that

    i think @Noir has a lot of Beatles knowledge

  • Apr 10, 2021
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    Elric

    not sure what youre asking here

    like what’s the inspiration behind because - it’s a stand out track from anything they did there and i find it unlikely the bbs aren’t the blueprint of this yet i have found nothing that backs it up, letting think im the only one in the world to make a connection of influence there

  • Apr 10, 2021
    rvi

    i think Because was probably influenced in some way just because they were big beach boys fans, like maybe they didnt set out to make it that way (probably not imo) but I am sure the thought crossed their minds during recording that it was sounding good in a same way that beach boys type harmonies did. maybe Because wasn't consciously inspired by Beach Boys, and instead it was just influenced/continuation by previous stuff Beatles were doing that was already inspired by beach boys, and their (Paul's?) personal taste in harmonies which of course included beach boys stuff that they loved. same thing I feel with Sun King. I kinda hesitate to say that absolutely anything with somewhat Beach Boys harmonies was directly influenced by them instead of possibly just being influenced by the fact that those Beach Boys harmonies had already worked themselves into the musical lexicon. In a weird way, I feel like that might actually be saying more about Beach Boys; its one thing to have people consciously trying to copy you but when they end up sounding like you just by nature of your style being influential across the musical landscape it feels bigger. A***ogy I just thought of is tons of 70s guitarists having obvious Jimi Hendrix influence without consciously thinking "i'm gonna try to sound like Hendrix", just because the guitar style completely worked its way into the fabric of everything

    Here There and Everywhere probably gets mentioned more (especially by Paul himself) because it iirc it was conscious effort to sound like Beach Boys. where Because/Sun King might sound like Beach Boys vocals but I can believe that the Beatles didn't specifically have them in mind while recording. and I kinda feel like the overall mood of Here There and Everywhere sounds more like Beach Boys. Also IIRC Because/Sun King are both more Lennon songs so it makes sense that Paul, who was bigger BBs fan anyway i thought, wouldnt mention them and what inspired them. Now that I think of it thats probably the simple answer, maybe if Lennon was alive he would have mentioned those songs along with beach boys. i probably rambled a lot. also of course dont want to act like Beach Boys completely invented harmonies or anything like that

    i think @Noir has a lot of Beatles knowledge

    good post - appreciate it

  • rvi 🐾
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    ithaka

    like what’s the inspiration behind because - it’s a stand out track from anything they did there and i find it unlikely the bbs aren’t the blueprint of this yet i have found nothing that backs it up, letting think im the only one in the world to make a connection of influence there

    i found some people saying similarities between Beach Boys and Because, but its also kind of a difficult song title to google lol. and people just dont talk about it too much in general and it gets overshadowed by most of the other abbey road songs, in part because theyre probably a bit more accessible to the general public.

  • Apr 10, 2021
    rvi

    i found some people saying similarities between Beach Boys and Because, but its also kind of a difficult song title to google lol. and people just dont talk about it too much in general and it gets overshadowed by most of the other abbey road songs, in part because theyre probably a bit more accessible to the general public.

    yeah like there’s some beatles connaisseur ive met and people that are insiders that i got to talk to about this but it’s never something that’s really out there like as accepted - you’re right about the googling part tho

  • Apr 10, 2021

    wish paul would talk about it instead of always repeating the story of let it be or what not

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    ithaka

    like what’s the inspiration behind because - it’s a stand out track from anything they did there and i find it unlikely the bbs aren’t the blueprint of this yet i have found nothing that backs it up, letting think im the only one in the world to make a connection of influence there

    Do me a favour and start using capitals for clarity

  • Apr 10, 2021

    Didn't even realize you were talking about Because