Elric

4y

Do me a favour and start using capitals for clarity

ithaka

4y

i said because by the beatles

tell your liverpool mates to pick better songtitles

Elric

4y

Thought something was lost in translation you f***ing francophone

ithaka

4y

like what’s the inspiration behind because - it’s a stand out track from anything they did there and i find it unlikely the bbs aren’t the blueprint of this yet i have found nothing that backs it up, letting think im the only one in the world to make a connection of influence there

ithaka

4y

dont remember which ones they were lol but you should try some beach boys too! the album surf’s up perhaps

rvi

4y

i think Because was probably influenced in some way just because they were big beach boys fans, like maybe they didnt set out to make it that way (probably not imo) but I am sure the thought crossed their minds during recording that it was sounding good in a same way that beach boys type harmonies did. maybe Because wasn't consciously inspired by Beach Boys, and instead it was just influenced/continuation by previous stuff Beatles were doing that was already inspired by beach boys, and their (Paul's?) personal taste in harmonies which of course included beach boys stuff that they loved. same thing I feel with Sun King. I kinda hesitate to say that absolutely anything with somewhat Beach Boys harmonies was directly influenced by them instead of possibly just being influenced by the fact that those Beach Boys harmonies had already worked themselves into the musical lexicon. In a weird way, I feel like that might actually be saying more about Beach Boys; its one thing to have people consciously trying to copy you but when they end up sounding like you just by nature of your style being influential across the musical landscape it feels bigger. A***ogy I just thought of is tons of 70s guitarists having obvious Jimi Hendrix influence without consciously thinking "i'm gonna try to sound like Hendrix", just because the guitar style completely worked its way into the fabric of everything

Here There and Everywhere probably gets mentioned more (especially by Paul himself) because it iirc it was conscious effort to sound like Beach Boys. where Because/Sun King might sound like Beach Boys vocals but I can believe that the Beatles didn't specifically have them in mind while recording. and I kinda feel like the overall mood of Here There and Everywhere sounds more like Beach Boys. Also IIRC Because/Sun King are both more Lennon songs so it makes sense that Paul, who was bigger BBs fan anyway i thought, wouldnt mention them and what inspired them. Now that I think of it thats probably the simple answer, maybe if Lennon was alive he would have mentioned those songs along with beach boys. i probably rambled a lot. also of course dont want to act like Beach Boys completely invented harmonies or anything like that

i think @Noir has a lot of Beatles knowledge

ithaka

4y

like no one else in 1969 were recording tracks like this - at all

yet of all the times paul has brought up the bbs over the decades he has never mentioned because, but here there and everywhere? how is this one more obvious than the other?

so many questions

Elric

4y

It's sounds pretty striking because its almost acapella but it's not THAT unique. Like 7000 albums came out around 1969 and alot of them were still made by kids that grew up digging barbershop quartets and doo wop and Everly Brothers and the same influences Brian had.

Couple off the top with similar layered high harmony

ithaka

4y

if you ever crave for more early beach boys formula in 1964 check this out:

the most exciting new surf group in the country

yet here’s the catch: it wasn’t a group and no one had heard of them

don’t let the band photo fool you on the front cover - it’s just models to make you believe it’s a hot band, look at the back cover and you’ll see what it actually is:

see the two guys shaking hands well thats what the project is, basically a one man band studio made (well duo man band here technically)

all that sounds cheap and fake - but it’s not, it’s actually legit good and catchy a greatly extends the legacy of the bbs and what they started, making you wish they were bbs songs, i mean it’s so similar it’s not even hard to imagine it as is

ithaka

4y

George Martin: It could be argued that The Beatles had become, culturally, the most important group of the Sixties. They defined the era. Yet I have to say that Brian was the musician who challenged them most of all. No one made a bigger impact on The Beatles than Brian.

ithaka

4y

am i crazy to hear some god only knows type beat at the start of this song? @RVI

written by leon russell who was a wrecking crew

rvi

4y

lol yeah i hear it

ithaka

4y

am i crazy to hear some god only knows type beat at the start of this song? @RVI

written by leon russell who was a wrecking crew

fiveprestos

4y

will do!

ithaka

4y

MGMT about the beach boys and the album surfs up:

@sfsorrow