Lately, there's been discussion on Twitter (Don't give a f*** about you crying about Twitter topics. As if y'all be talking about anything else worth note on here) about Black artists making rock music. Specifically, Alemeda, one of TDE's most recent signees.

If you're unfamiliar, here's a small sampler.

Not bad stuff. Ya know your run of the mill pop-punk affair in the vein of your Paramores, Fall Out Boys, Blink 182s, etc. This isn't necessarily a thread to hate on her, or other Black artists who have made similar pop-punk influenced rock music like Foushee, Paris Texas, Teezo Touchdown, XXXTentacion (Except them cause they're f***in garbage), Juice Wrld or whatever other artist in that lane that fuse hip-hop and pop-punk. There's many of them who been popping up since the late 2010s-2020s.

But it brings me to the main point of this discussion...why is it that these Black artists always seem to rush to make, admittedly, pretty generic "white people rock", but you hardly ever hear any influence of the great Black artists and bands who've made punk, metal, smooth rock, funk-rock, etc? And why do they get so defensive when they're called out on it?

Now I'm not here to say that Paramore and all them other bands are bad. It's just so bizarre how with...that crowd of Black folk, they tend to act like they're the only rock music that exists. And they end up making such lazy cheap copies of the white pop-punk bands' music. It's like they're terrified to actually dabble and tap into the Black side of the genre. Which is a shame because there's a very rich history of it that deserves more recognition. Black people been making grunge, punk, metal, etc.

And what gets me, is that generic Paramore-lite pop-punk music that Black artists are creating ends up being the "face of modern day Black rock music". And it's a shame because bands like Soul Glo, Zulu, Playytime, Thirdface (Led by Black woman) don't ever get the same looks (Zulu for a good reason these days because unfortunately one of the band members is an abuser).

Whatever the case, I'm not tryna tell you what Black rock music to listen to, or that the Alemeda and the others mentioned are wrong for making their pop-punk music. Ya make the music that you're familiar with. Most I'll say, is it really that hard to start getting more familiar with the Black artists of the genre?

Soul Glo so so good

I think because that’s the music they grew up on?

Last paragraph.

@op It's simple really, we f***ed up immensely when we let crackers steal the sauce of Fishbone, Living Colour, Bad Brains, Follow For Now, and Death with no resistance.

These new black artists only can get influence from their adjacent templates (e.g. which in this case is paramore, blink 182, type core)

no deep insight into this but those Alameda songs in op im not a fan i will leave it at that

It's similar to "Black Country Music" and yet you dont see any of these niggas digging into some Mississipi Delta S*** or Big Mama Thornton bag, only dolly parton/lynrd type s*** with some trap

This thread and @Water_Giver thread HIGHKEY are linked in a way.

King's X too! they were grunge before grunge kinda

(edit: nvm they had two white guys in the band lol)

I read the whole thing (always) I just can’t get past this point

The reason Curtis Harding sounds like Curtis Mayfield and Sam Cooke isn’t because he studied their work: it’s because that’s what his mother played him as a child and there was an abundance to play

The pool of Black rockstars for Millennials, who were introduced to Rock by that era, was small

I do believe there are talented Black artists making music like Fishbone and Bo; they’re just not on our radar

You right.

And Skunk Anansi too.

It's so many black bands that were ahead of their time that because "lol you black" got NO virtual support.

it’s a shame most black people don’t know who TV on the radio is because they’re one of the greatest bands of the century that’s mostly all black.

tired of seeing these paramore-lite s*** from my people 💔

yall gotta also understand Paramore was like...the biggest widely accepted "ok you can be a nigga and listen to this" rock band in the 2000s.

Like it didn't matter what walk of life you was on as a nigga, EVERYONE knew the lyrics to Aint It Fun.

Versus, you was given weird looks if you was caught listening to a My Chemical Romance. (I'm saying that as someone that was one of those weird look givers lol.)

Sure but it all goes Back to Black, so what’s the issue really?

Kele Okereke and Hayley were influenced by Etta James and a new generation of Black artists are influenced by them

Yachty came closer to a black rock sound then most of the artist in OP

The point valid ngl, especially when the marketing a lot of times really is "im black and I make rock music!"

Its kinda like musical erasure, where now the faces of black rock are pretty much just influence by white rock band that were influenced by black rock bands

I wouldnt use it as a criticism towards those artists like some been doing on twitter tho, cause thats just not the music they wanna make. Its really just an observation that not a lot of black rock artists are really influenced by traditional black rock artists and there's been a lineage cut

Also paramore got a lotta “sauce” in their s***. (Played some wedding band gigs recently that request a lotta paramore so now im listening to their catalog)

That outro of Aint It Fun is literally gospel lmfao.

You dont see how weird that sounds tho?

I saw this tweet and its kinda like why not

Posts like these are why we never gon be free ong

I find it’s better than the real answer: the new artists just aren’t talented enough

Mos Def woulda singlehandedly turned the tides on this if that racist ass label woulda let him just make his rock Black Jack Johnson album like he wanted to (New Danger was the compromise)

Meanwhile ile these guys try to sound like Sly, Temptations, Curtis

I have another theory

That tweet is so asinine, how can somebody be legit mad that a 20-something singer on TDE isn’t channeling Lavern Baker? Of all people

You were born in 2002? Too bad, you have a legitimate artistic duty to sound like this

I guess where my stance on it is, if you show an interest in rock music. Pop-punk, screamo, etc whatever kinda subgenre. There's never been a point in your childhoods/teens where your curiosity took you to looking for Black people making that kinda music? Or if there ever was?

Like I remember doing that when I was 14 and it's how I discovered bands like Death, 24-7 Spyz, Fishbone, and Defunkt at that young age. There's truly a lot of great Black rock bands, who lean more into punk, you can find just by digging more into the funk-rock/psychedelic rock subgenres. A lot of punk music had it's roots in funk-rock because of how hard these Black people were playing and the grooves they incorporated into rock. It's how we ended up getting Red Hot Chili Peppers. Infact, it's how we ended up getting bands like Paramore, Fall Out Boy, Good Charlotte because they took influence from Black music.

So ultimately it's like, if white people were able to do it....why can't these niggas do it?