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  • Nov 22, 2023
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    Jonboi

    I don’t get why people count Donda 2
    Anything not on streaming isn’t canon IMO

    Is Garth Brooks' catalog not canon because it's not on streaming?

  • Nov 22, 2023
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    the amount of coping around Donda 2 is ridiculous

  • Nov 22, 2023

    I remember riding for Nah Nah Nah so hard when it dropped that even my friends who love Ye were like damn bro chill this sucks

  • Nov 22, 2023
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    Skinn Foley

    Is Garth Brooks' catalog not canon because it's not on streaming?

    Wait a second that was a dumb statement, I forgot about mixtapes and s***

  • Nov 22, 2023
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    Jonboi

    I don’t get why people count Donda 2
    Anything not on streaming isn’t canon IMO

    donda 2 is a tape but this logic is insane when little wayne exists

  • Nov 22, 2023
    Skinn Foley

    Is Garth Brooks' catalog not canon because it's not on streaming?

    I think he means stuff released in the modern era

  • Nov 22, 2023
    Theory Talk Trader

    donda 2 is a tape but this logic is insane when little wayne exists

    Yeah I wasn’t thinking

  • Nov 22, 2023
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    JIK is a miss but it's still okay, just mediocre

    Donda 2 a whole miss

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    Nov 22, 2023
    X7JQ9L2MF4A8Z

    the amount of coping around Donda 2 is ridiculous

    It's a demo

  • Nov 22, 2023

    Donda 2 literally got incomplete verses and never was updated, why would you count it in his discog?

  • Nov 22, 2023
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    He really doesn’t. Only actual miss that’s consensus is JIK and even that has its fans

  • Nov 22, 2023
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    X7JQ9L2MF4A8Z

    the amount of coping around Donda 2 is ridiculous

    It’s mostly just a beat tape with a bunch of mumbling
    Why would anyone count that? 😂 It’s not cope, I just feel like you’re being extra if you include that s***

  • Nov 22, 2023
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    Jonboi

    Wait a second that was a dumb statement, I forgot about mixtapes and s***

    • Days Before Rodeo
    • A s***load of Screw tapes
    • Damn near every Memphis rap release recorded between 1988-1996
    • A lot of old punk records
    • A lot of old dance records

    Streaming being the authority of the canon would only make sense if the musical canon developed simultaneously and as a byproduct of the advent of streaming, which is objectively not true and couldn't be true

  • Nov 22, 2023
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    Bobby_96

    To be fair, Ye has quite a few mid loosies: XYCY, Ye. Vs. The People, Lift Yourself, Nah Nah Nah, etc.

    I remember niggas claimed Donda would be a miss cause of Nah Nah Nah and Wash Us not taking off like that.

    You just never know. We'll have to wait and see if he's gonna drop the ball or surprise people.

    XTCY = great production, topic is funny
    ye vs the people = great production, topic is trash
    Lift Yourself = troll song, great production

  • Nov 22, 2023
    Jonboi

    It’s mostly just a beat tape with a bunch of mumbling
    Why would anyone count that? 😂 It’s not cope, I just feel like you’re being extra if you include that s***

    And multiple songs were given to other artists

  • Nov 22, 2023
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    mov

    XTCY = great production, topic is funny
    ye vs the people = great production, topic is trash
    Lift Yourself = troll song, great production

    Lift Yourself is a classic and XTCY beat i amazing

    Ye Vs. The People kinda sucked tbh

  • Nov 22, 2023
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    Skinn Foley
    • Days Before Rodeo
    • A s***load of Screw tapes
    • Damn near every Memphis rap release recorded between 1988-1996
    • A lot of old punk records
    • A lot of old dance records

    Streaming being the authority of the canon would only make sense if the musical canon developed simultaneously and as a byproduct of the advent of streaming, which is objectively not true and couldn't be true

    Yeah, that’s why I really gotta think things through before posting

  • Nov 22, 2023
    Jonboi

    Yeah, that’s why I really gotta think things through before posting

    no worries brudda just shining a light

  • Nov 22, 2023
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    Skinn Foley

    Lift Yourself is a classic and XTCY beat i amazing

    Ye Vs. The People kinda sucked tbh

    production on ye vs the people is amazing, it's a shame that he used it for this hogwash

  • Nov 22, 2023
    mov

    production on ye vs the people is amazing, it's a shame that he used it for this hogwash

    Bigger travesty than lift yourself, had that fire beat to talk over it in a surface level political debate with TI

  • Nov 22, 2023
    mov

    production on ye vs the people is amazing, it's a shame that he used it for this hogwash

    I wasn't honestly that impressed by the production

    I actually think the subject matter on XTCY is more repulsive than Ye Vs. The People

    The guy who made "Family Business" knows better

  • Nov 22, 2023
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    No they really can’t. TLOP is one of his most popular and beloved albums. Yeezus was well received critically and has proven to be influential a decade later. Outside of ktt Ye was well received

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