Dec 10, 2022
EMYLiterally what does this have to do with what I said
Dec 10, 2022
Senior InternNorth Korea not opening themselves up to the world with an international sports tournament 10+ years in the making. He wasn't just there trolling, it's a global event
bro on a roll with the hypothetical scenarios and imaginary talking points
- Dec 10, 2022·1 replyGojira
Does Islam justify slavery? Just curious
Depends on the circumstances. Race based slavery like the trans Atlantic slave trade is forbidden however, and in the modern day slavery is unneeded.
Dec 10, 2022·1 reply
Upper Moon 1This kinda true
Some countries really don't play about that kinda stuff
Doesn't make it right but they don't care about the West opinion
This is all the way true and it's crazy the argument just doesn't end there
Dec 10, 2022GojiraDoes Islam justify slavery? Just curious
i’m leaning towards yes off top but killing them or any type of worker/servant is seen as wrong
- Dec 10, 2022Prosper
This is all the way true and it's crazy the argument just doesn't end there
Yea point, blank, period tbh lol
- Dec 10, 2022
lets not forget that the violence migrant workers face is often due to their race
- Dec 10, 2022·3 repliesjordan at wizards
treating your workers like they do is frowned upon too (islamically), a lot of workers dead, many muslim too, i don’t wanna hear justification about that
Treating workers poorly is unjustifiable, but why wasn’t there a public outcry against China when they hosted the Olympics and had even worse worker conditions? Or against Russia who hosted a previous World Cup? Or against Chinese made products in general which are made in sweatshops? Why the double standard?
Dec 10, 2022·1 replyEMYThey are forbidding something which is forbidden in their religion. Whether you think homophobia is wrong or not is irrelevant, you have no right to go to a country and demand the people abandon the teachings of their religion
If your religion says that homophobia is okay, I think your religion is stupid and should be criticized. No one is 'demanding' anything.
Dec 10, 2022EMYI think Abortion is a complex issue that can be justified in some cases, but the vast majority of abortions in the US aren’t justifiable. Why?
What
- Dec 10, 2022·1 replyEMY
Treating workers poorly is unjustifiable, but why wasn’t there a public outcry against China when they hosted the Olympics and had even worse worker conditions? Or against Russia who hosted a previous World Cup? Or against Chinese made products in general which are made in sweatshops? Why the double standard?
There has been outcry about all the things you listed bruh
- Dec 10, 2022·1 replySenior Intern
North Korea not opening themselves up to the world with an international sports tournament 10+ years in the making. He wasn't just there trolling, it's a global event
So when China was hosting the Olympics, would it have been wise for me to show up with a shirt that says “F Xi Jinping for human rights abuses.” If I get arrested, who can I blame but myself?
Dec 10, 2022RIP to him.
- Dec 10, 2022·1 replycoltrup
If your religion says that homophobia is okay, I think your religion is stupid and should be criticized. No one is 'demanding' anything.
I could not give a f*** less if you think my religion is stupid. You don’t get to tell me not to follow my religion. Should I go to the next World Cup in America and start advocating for polygamy, which is illegal here? If I think it’s stupid that polygamy is illegal, do I get to run on the field with a flag advocating polygamy when I know it’s considered unacceptable here?
- Dec 10, 2022·2 repliesEMY
Treating workers poorly is unjustifiable, but why wasn’t there a public outcry against China when they hosted the Olympics and had even worse worker conditions? Or against Russia who hosted a previous World Cup? Or against Chinese made products in general which are made in sweatshops? Why the double standard?
i hear what you say but they’re not comparable, it’s a whole nother monster in qatar
- Dec 10, 2022·1 replyQ3D
There has been outcry about all the things you listed bruh
Did the BBC skip those countries opening ceremony? Were there calls to boycott those games? Don’t play dumb, NO country has received as much vitriol as Qatar for hosting a sporting event.
- Dec 10, 2022·1 replyEMY
Treating workers poorly is unjustifiable, but why wasn’t there a public outcry against China when they hosted the Olympics and had even worse worker conditions? Or against Russia who hosted a previous World Cup? Or against Chinese made products in general which are made in sweatshops? Why the double standard?
Europeans have watched 25k migrants die since 2014 while attempting to cross the mediterranean ocean, you think they actually give af about migrant workers in qatar?
- Dec 10, 2022·1 replyEMY
Did the BBC skip those countries opening ceremony? Were there calls to boycott those games? Don’t play dumb, NO country has received as much vitriol as Qatar for hosting a sporting event.
China was under fire in 2008 for hosting the Olympics, British prime Minister at the time said no British representatives would be present in Russia
- Dec 10, 2022EMY
So when China was hosting the Olympics, would it have been wise for me to show up with a shirt that says “F Xi Jinping for human rights abuses.” If I get arrested, who can I blame but myself?
1. The shirt he wore was a football with a rainbow around it. No, I don't think he should be expected to be arrested for that in North Korea, China or any other country you come up with
2. He wrote about human rights abuses. Again, in global tournaments like this one should allowed to write about things like this? Am I wrong? They're supposed to be a civilised country opening themselves up to the the world, they can't take that criticism? - Dec 10, 2022jordan at wizards
i hear what you say but they’re not comparable, it’s a whole nother monster in qatar
it’s also the callous way they talk about it too, at least other countries TRY to act like they give a s***, they don’t care enough to do that
- Dec 10, 2022Aight
Europeans have watched 25k migrants die since 2014 while attempting to cross the mediterranean ocean, you think they actually give af about migrant workers in qatar?
Of course they don’t. I’m well aware they are hypocrites, who decry “workers conditions” while typing from phones made from sweatshop workers.
- Dec 10, 2022·2 repliesjordan at wizards
i hear what you say but they’re not comparable, it’s a whole nother monster in qatar
I find it hard to trust western sources when it comes to any middle Eastern nation, but if this is true then it is categorically immoral. But the thread wasn’t about this and most of the outcry isn’t
- Dec 10, 2022·1 replyEMY
I could not give a f*** less if you think my religion is stupid. You don’t get to tell me not to follow my religion. Should I go to the next World Cup in America and start advocating for polygamy, which is illegal here? If I think it’s stupid that polygamy is illegal, do I get to run on the field with a flag advocating polygamy when I know it’s considered unacceptable here?
America is a borderline failed state, but as of 2022 you are free to do all of those things here. I don't have any problem with it.
But if your belief system tells you that homophobia is cool, I wouldn't want you around me or my community.
I don't think criticism of a foreign country should be about changing things abroad, which is a hopeless battle anyways. I think it's about coming to a consensus within your community about right and wrong.
- Dec 10, 2022·2 repliescoltrup
America is a borderline failed state, but as of 2022 you are free to do all of those things here. I don't have any problem with it.
But if your belief system tells you that homophobia is cool, I wouldn't want you around me or my community.
I don't think criticism of a foreign country should be about changing things abroad, which is a hopeless battle anyways. I think it's about coming to a consensus within your community about right and wrong.
Whether you tolerate disrespect to your belief system or not is completely irrelevant to me. You don’t get to go to Muslim lands and loudly declare “your religion is false and immoral” without consequences. You western dogs are not the arbiters of morality, and you are not the police of the world as your colonialist ancestors have led you to believe. There are consequences for your actions.
- Gojira 🦖OPDec 10, 2022·1 replyEMY
Whether you tolerate disrespect to your belief system or not is completely irrelevant to me. You don’t get to go to Muslim lands and loudly declare “your religion is false and immoral” without consequences. You western dogs are not the arbiters of morality, and you are not the police of the world as your colonialist ancestors have led you to believe. There are consequences for your actions.
Islam is also not the arbiter of morality and Iran cannot police its surrounding countries as Shia extremism has led people to believe.