i didnt say the grammys werent racist but yall justification for this s*** makes no sense

niggas talk like they want black artists to win just because theyre black and not cause of the music itself

just comes off as forced activism

...what?

nah because black artists have been dominating music for 15 years and this they first win since 05. make it make sense

thats valid and obviously you shouldn't have forced representation in something like awards

but you should have forced representation in the voting committee and as of 2021 the voting committee was 73% white while out of the 242 artists who charted a song in 2021 only 46% were white

thats why when you have the history the Grammys have when it comes to acknowledging Black artists people have questions

yeah exactly, so look at the year morning phase won

beyonce, pharrell, sam smith, sheeran, beck

four albums that are essentially pop

it seems quite likely to me beyonce was the most likely #2 choice certainly for people who would have voted for another pop album

the kacey musgraves year, the six hip-hop/r&b albums definitely split the vote to some extent. does this mean kacey NO WAY would have won with ranked choice? i'm not saying that, but her victory would have been predicated on her amassing a sufficient number of second place votes from people who picked one of those six

even in, for instance, the years where adele and bruno won, which i feel almost certain would have happened even with ranked choice, it would be confirmation that it was the most liked album amongst all voters as opposed to the album with the least voter overlap with the other also-well-liked albums

the relevance to Black artists (in "Black genres") is that they are the ones increasingly most likely to split the vote amongst themselves if multiple are nominated

of course obligatory its the grammys it doesn't really matter and is always fun to see top 40 fans salty BUT for their own sake you'd think they might be interested in shoring up their legitimacy

and as another voter said, maybe my prognosis of votesplitting is completely wrong but the voting is not transparent at all so we don't even know (so i suppose they don't care about what people think about their legitimacy in any case)

niggas are saying its racist to have wanted billie or o rod to win cause theyre white and johns black

thats the actual narrative on this site

not even talking about the music just identity politics

Lord pray you aren't talking about that thread full of people with the reading comprehension of a 30 year old 5th grader...

The Grammy winner should be revealed via Divine Right

"Y'all only wanted Jon to win because he's Black!"
"Jon only won because he's Black!"

......in an awards category that had 3 other Black artists as nominees?

and they gave the award to an artist that sold 2k copies first week exactly what the f*** im talking about

Nas X deserved the grammy more because people actually heard his album and it had impact

how is that what you're talking about? who wanted this dude to win?

well yes of course but let's not bite off too much more than we can chew

Nah..

Then bts Gon win every award

We need to know which of the 2013 Rap AOTY nominees the Mandate of Heaven smiled upon