f*** joe
Profit-sharing is a commission. If the profits are the same every month u can consider it a salary since the source is stable. The reality is none of these guys are cooperate and using words interchangeably when they mean different things.
I listened to all pods around this topic. I'm not saying Joe may not be pulling shady s***. I broke down all their claims which are over money. Both sides are contradicting themselves. But with emotion, anger and lies that's to be expected. As for being employees and having a hierarchy above Paris is standard. Rory and mal were basically managers, then parks as the engineer then all the other guys below.
Having a hierarchy is common. I'm a director at my company but I wouldn't say I own the business as it's a global company with a CEO and founders. I can also be fired at any time.
ok if you're coming at this from a corpo objective financio standpoint who is a new listener, then i appreciate that
joe is wrong tho
Profit-sharing is a commission. If the profits are the same every month u can consider it a salary since the source is stable. The reality is none of these guys are cooperate and using words interchangeably when they mean different things.
yea but even joe is the worst offender of that because he is the most pretentious, trying to be this mogul 
im telln u
Shut up bandito
I listened to all pods around this topic. I'm not saying Joe may not be pulling shady s***. I broke down all their claims which are over money. Both sides are contradicting themselves. But with emotion, anger and lies that's to be expected. As for being employees and having a hierarchy above Paris is standard. Rory and mal were basically managers, then parks as the engineer then all the other guys below.
Having a hierarchy is common. I'm a director at my company but I wouldn't say I own the business as it's a global company with a CEO and founders. I can also be fired at any time.
This guy mentions himself in every post
you don't have to
but that's not the issue anyways
they would have been cool with whatever joe's arrangement was
they just wanted to know where it was coming from
I agree. In the interest of friendship and team morale, he should have shared the information. But his logic is he doesn't have to and they are ungrateful if it is true that he paying them using his own money to keep them earning.
My point is it not as crazy as it sounds it seems unless laws are being breached. Everyone involved is a s*** communicating without proper experience and contradicting themselves. Joe actions and delivery is whack as f*** but I see and do understand his logic as the sole owner of the company.
tbh, bandito is iust a neutral party since he lacks context. rhats the type of 3rd party jpb shud have hired. instead, joe try to sick his jerry keller who casually will say "joe, you are the most gracious, most generous business partner i've ever worked with.". Joe would rather have ian manage rory and mal to shut them up
lol f*** ian
f*** joe
f*** parks
If I’m Rory I’m not tryna hear that weak ass apology about how u said I’m a worthless s*** and u aint want me to be there when ya son was born. That’s how U felt and u let it be known.
lets say the pod continued to go and grow as normal
are we supposed to believe that joe would have started paying them what their contract said they were owed based on profits?
if he wasn't upholding the contract when it was actually favorable for him to do so
why would he then uphold the contract when he is required to pay them what they are actually worth (whenever that number grows beyond whatever he was paying them before he fired them)
ok if you're coming at this from a corpo objective financio standpoint who is a new listener, then i appreciate that
joe is wrong tho
Yeah, he's a d*** head. All parties are to blame. Friendship clouded everyone's judgment. Before revenue, you should always iron out the financials.
I have a side business with two friends and we split everything evenly. It's has kept things simple. Because if the revenue is a lot one will become disgruntled seeing lots revenue come in with a smaller take. Two of us work harder than one guy which is annoying as f*** but our terms were agreed upon before revenue. We will probably buy him out at some point.
If I’m Rory I’m not tryna hear that weak ass apology about how u said I’m a worthless s*** and u aint want me to be there when ya son was born. That’s how U felt and u let it be known.
Facts. If I was him it's f*** Joe for life. He's an op.
tbh, bandito is iust a neutral party since he lacks context. rhats the type of 3rd party jpb shud have hired. instead, joe try to sick his jerry keller who casually will say "joe, you are the most gracious, most generous business partner i've ever worked with.". Joe would rather have ian manage rory and mal to shut them up
lol f*** ian
f*** joe
f*** parks
Exactly. That's why founders often hire CEO to run the day today. Just because u founded something doesn't mean you can run the company. Joe at the end of the day is the talent and the reason people tune in. It's hard to do both effectively without experience.
why is he like this
Thats abandonment issues for sure
This guy mentions himself in every post
That makes people relate more. By painting a picture and giving real world examples. If I solely use the guys words peoples judgements are clouDed based on fandom.
Exactly. That's why founders often hire CEO to run the day today. Just because u founded something doesn't mean you can run the company. Joe at the end of the day is the talent and the reason people tune in. It's hard to do both effectively without experience.
how has nobody communicated this to joe
why is he like this
yall literally been on here complaining about mal not talking/being on his phone the whole time
Yes, both parties said they've seen the numbers. But roryvand mal don't believe the numbers based on an alleged error. Joe doesn't not have to prove his revenue from other sources tho which is where their pay is coming from according to Joe
Let's say you and I work together on a pod. And I'm paying you a commision based on earnings but the deals dry up so I use my supplementary income from my side gigs to keep paying you. If you ask to see those books I don't have to show you because that income is not pod related. I'm simply paying from my money.
its not about not believing the numbers, unless you think rory is lying, he said specifically the accounting firm agreed there was an error. after that, no more numbers were shared