Feb 13, 2023·1 reply
Synopsisin game joels biggest internal conflict is he does feel like a father figure to ellie, but does not want to.
joel is never actually a heartless b****** to her after like, the initial day they meet lol its weird people misinterpret it as that.
I dont think anyones saying he hates her. Hes just trying his hardest to reject her (and failing)
- Kr0niic ☘️OPFeb 13, 2023Synopsis
in game joels biggest internal conflict is he does feel like a father figure to ellie, but does not want to.
joel is never actually a heartless b****** to her after like, the initial day they meet lol its weird people misinterpret it as that.
It’s media illiterate gamers man what did you expect
Feb 13, 2023rise zeroI dont think anyones saying he hates her. Hes just trying his hardest to reject her (and failing)
- Feb 13, 2023·1 reply
Literally no one is saying Joel in game or show is a heartless b****** to her
- Feb 13, 2023·1 replyHaroldsChicken
Literally no one is saying Joel in game or show is a heartless b****** to her
this is how people act tho. they think its
joel hates ellie > joel wants to get rid of her > joel realizes he doesnt hate ellie > joel becomes father figure
when really it is
joel is angry at tess dying > joel is scared of caring about anyone else > starts to care for ellie > realizes this is a bad thing and tries to end it > starts believing that being father figure is best for him and ellie
- Feb 13, 2023·1 replySynopsis
this is how people act tho. they think its
joel hates ellie > joel wants to get rid of her > joel realizes he doesnt hate ellie > joel becomes father figure
when really it is
joel is angry at tess dying > joel is scared of caring about anyone else > starts to care for ellie > realizes this is a bad thing and tries to end it > starts believing that being father figure is best for him and ellie
I always kind of got the last progression I think my brain is just missing the banter and momentum the gameplay parts of solely seeing their perspective had. Bill and Frank episode was good show of humanity but it being the longest episode so far when it feels like Joel and Ellie just hit their stride with Episode 5 is why I said "I can understand how someone would feel they are sidelined". I think episode 6 will address much of that. Joel never really hates her if he did lol he wouldn't act the way he does time and time again. Just came across FOR ME better in the game. Again mocap and facial reactions. I have said multiple times Bella and Pedro just not as expressive to me face and eyes wise . There is still time and I think episode 5 clearly their best bar none
Feb 13, 2023HaroldsChickenI always kind of got the last progression I think my brain is just missing the banter and momentum the gameplay parts of solely seeing their perspective had. Bill and Frank episode was good show of humanity but it being the longest episode so far when it feels like Joel and Ellie just hit their stride with Episode 5 is why I said "I can understand how someone would feel they are sidelined". I think episode 6 will address much of that. Joel never really hates her if he did lol he wouldn't act the way he does time and time again. Just came across FOR ME better in the game. Again mocap and facial reactions. I have said multiple times Bella and Pedro just not as expressive to me face and eyes wise . There is still time and I think episode 5 clearly their best bar none
I swear they are doing Christopher Nolan type mic sabotaging on Pedro Pascal , his audio is constantly muffled or low
Feb 13, 2023·1 replyJust watched it. Whole episode was pa kent saying f*** dem kids
- Feb 13, 2023SUPERMAN
Just watched it. Whole episode was pa kent saying f*** dem kids
LMFAO
Feb 13, 2023·3 repliesI wish they didnt change dialogues from game to tv show for certain scenes
In the game, Henry is like “its ur fault” wish he said it here too
- Feb 13, 2023·1 replycrinewinedining
I wish they didnt change dialogues from game to tv show for certain scenes
In the game, Henry is like “its ur fault” wish he said it here too
that I am take it or leave it on. The only egregiously comical thing was him dying on the poster that was unnecessary.
Feb 13, 2023crinewinediningI wish they didnt change dialogues from game to tv show for certain scenes
In the game, Henry is like “its ur fault” wish he said it here too
Yea I’m watching the comparisons from the game to live action. And the dialogue in the game hits harder tbh
- Kr0niic ☘️OPFeb 13, 2023·1 replycrinewinedining
I wish they didnt change dialogues from game to tv show for certain scenes
In the game, Henry is like “its ur fault” wish he said it here too
In my opinion “what did you do” changed to “what did I do” makes more sense for Henry’s character in the show. In the show he is less violent, never killed people, and doesn’t betray Joel. Much closer to Sam too in the show. Taking Blame for it I think fits Henry more in the show
Feb 13, 2023the backup got there so fast after joel got the sniper tf
- Feb 13, 2023·1 replyHaroldsChicken
I wouldn't say non existent Just they have done a great deal of set up for season 2 . Openly saying they have made her more violent or antagonistic to Joel partially to lead into what is coming in season 2\. Their connection so far FOR ME hasn't been crazy strong enough to justify her feeling like that about the lie because again as I list she lied to Joel about the infected in basement, didn't tell him about Sam getting bitten, didn't tell him she took a gun. Like yes she was lying for greater good and yes her knowing about Sam changing was sweet. I am just thinking of rest of season and next does it make sense that she goes on a rampage? Especially after she has seen Sam and Henry do whats necessary for love including sell someone out. Bill and Frank Suicide for love. They just going to have to sell that she goes from where she is right now to basically Kathleen. Showing Kathleen just didn't hit because Kathleen is such a preview of Abby.
This is just my personal opinion it has no affect on anyone else . If you are loving the show I am glad you are
last of us 1 and 2 spoilers
theres still a lot of time left in the show to establish all that
i do agree tho that its hard to see bella playing the TLOU2 Ellie at this moment in time lol
- Feb 13, 2023·1 replyKr0niic
In my opinion “what did you do” changed to “what did I do” makes more sense for Henry’s character in the show. In the show he is less violent, never killed people, and doesn’t betray Joel. Much closer to Sam too in the show. Taking Blame for it I think fits Henry more in the show
He takes the blame for it in the game too, that's why he shoots himself. "It's all your fault!" is him talking to himself. Maybe it's partly misguided anger against Joel too but ultimately he knows he failed to protect his brother.
Confirmed by Neil too I'm not just talking out of my ass
- Kr0niic ☘️OPFeb 13, 2023rise zero
He takes the blame for it in the game too, that's why he shoots himself. "It's all your fault!" is him talking to himself. Maybe it's partly misguided anger against Joel too but ultimately he knows he failed to protect his brother.
Confirmed by Neil too I'm not just talking out of my ass
oh tbh i thought he was blaming joel this whole time lmfao with that line
- Feb 13, 2023·editedHaroldsChicken
that I am take it or leave it on. The only egregiously comical thing was him dying on the poster that was unnecessary.
lol i didnt notice that. they went heavy on the superhero stuff which could have easily been corny but i think it worked.
- Feb 13, 2023scoop
theres still a lot of time left in the show to establish all that
i do agree tho that its hard to see bella playing the TLOU2 Ellie at this moment in time lol
Then we agree
Feb 13, 2023·1 replyThey're setting the stage perfectly
- Feb 13, 2023
Laying all the groundwork
Feb 13, 2023this show is ridiculously good
Feb 13, 2023https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1625227227993350150PALESTINE DATTENThey're setting the stage perfectly
It's going to be even more gay in part 2?
Feb 13, 2023Episode 5 was gas
