Nov 9, 2020·2 replies
DVLPRWill you be banning books and stuff? Movies and stuff?
books no. which books get read will be vastly different.
movies and stuff?
im banning copaganda so goodbye paw patrol.
Nov 9, 2020·1 replyFaygonigga what ?
wtf that gotta do with communismdid you even read what i was replying to tf
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HURRY UP sabexcept they used it wrong lol
right lol, not voting would be the exact opposite of participating in society.
Nov 9, 2020·1 replyYou Disappoint MeIPhones would not exist if we were in communism, IOS came as an alternative to the massively popular and already existing android
Exactly. We’d have one s***ty subsidized phone & OS bc nobody would even be incentivized to innovate & continue innovation
Nov 9, 2020
krishna boundyou kind of run into a paradox when you discuss landlords in the frame of capitalism where landlords are parasitic under liberal capitalism but because liberal capitalism inherently precedes socialist or communist frameworks, the transfer of land whether to a state or to a communal framework doesn't actually fix the issue, it basically just moves the boundaries of differentiation of personal and socialized propert(ies); both in terms of individual and cultural senses (not even taking into account how the concept of a vanguard complicates this even more). this has always been one of the stumbling blocks of theory for me, where I don't think any real revolutionary or left philosopher has made a convincing argument without relying on circular logic at one point.
They are arguing over who they want to be oppressed by
Nov 9, 2020Bums in here making excuses for being bums
- Nov 9, 2020Synopsis
books no. which books get read will be vastly different.
movies and stuff?
im banning copaganda so goodbye paw patrol.
rip paw patrol 😭😭
- Nov 9, 20200ddJay
Exactly. We’d have one s***ty subsidized phone & OS bc nobody would even be incentivized to innovate & continue innovation
they don't get it man, imagine that but now it's houses instead of phones
- OPNov 9, 2020·2 repliesYou Disappoint Me
did you even read what i was replying to tf
what does ios being better than android have to do with paying people who are basically enslaved by corporations fairly
- Nov 9, 2020Faygo
what does ios being better than android have to do with paying people who are basically enslaved by corporations fairly
room temperature iq
Nov 9, 2020
wheatleyMan just pay your rent
but it’s cheaper to complain!
- Nov 9, 2020·1 reply
llets pretend capitalism alone is responsible for the iphone lol
thats not a solid counterargument for capitalism needing to overthrown.
Nov 9, 2020·1 replyFaygowhat does ios being better than android have to do with paying people who are basically enslaved by corporations fairly
I think he's saying in a communist system there's no drive for innovation
- OPNov 9, 2020·3 repliesHITSLIKEDIETCOKE
I think he's saying in a communist system there's no drive for innovation
the soviet union was one of the most innovative when it came to science and technology
- Nov 9, 2020Synopsis
llets pretend capitalism alone is responsible for the iphone lol
thats not a solid counterargument for capitalism needing to overthrown.
capitalism is solely responsible for most scientific and technological innovation, history tells you that
Nov 9, 2020·1 replySynopsisThe new ideology would be that of socialism lol, i already admitted there would be violence. those platofrms would be seized by force, since they aren't just going to step down. the entire system and the pillars it stands on need to and will be abolished.
okay but given the location of capital/power at present there's no guarantee a 'seizure by force' would be successful right? like if anything it's more likely the working class 'loses' and is subject to even more cruelty by the upper class than at present.
fwiw i dont think the possibility of failure should preclude such an effort but saying 'those platforms would be seized by force' is pretty fking optimistic. i think 'revolution' in modern times differs greatly in concept and plausibility than in the past a la french/russian revs. not only because of how capital is more concentrated than ever before and advances in tech but also because of how fragmented the working class is.
- Nov 9, 2020·1 reply
p sure soviets invented the first version of the cellphone and put a satellite in space before america but hey gotta cape for a multi billion dollar company profiting off slave labor while dishing out the same phone every 12 months.
- Nov 9, 2020·1 replySynopsis
books no. which books get read will be vastly different.
movies and stuff?
im banning copaganda so goodbye paw patrol.
Please don’t ban paw patrol. Just tell the people that it’s old capitalist propaganda if you want.
Why would you be afraid of people being influenced by capitalist propaganda if the system you currently have is so perfect already? That’s like my girlfriend blocking all the hotties off my socials cuz she afraid I’ll cheat if i see them.
- Nov 9, 2020Synopsis
p sure soviets invented the first version of the cellphone and put a satellite in space before america but hey gotta cape for a multi billion dollar company profiting off slave labor while dishing out the same phone every 12 months.
Why is soviet russia not around and USA still is?
and oh and stalin killed more people than hitler but that's not talked about
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i'm outta this thread niggas really pick and chose what aspects of communism they like and disregard others
ya'll living in a fantasy land - Nov 9, 2020Moon
okay but given the location of capital/power at present there's no guarantee a 'seizure by force' would be successful right? like if anything it's more likely the working class 'loses' and is subject to even more cruelty by the upper class than at present.
fwiw i dont think the possibility of failure should preclude such an effort but saying 'those platforms would be seized by force' is pretty fking optimistic. i think 'revolution' in modern times differs greatly in concept and plausibility than in the past a la french/russian revs. not only because of how capital is more concentrated than ever before and advances in tech but also because of how fragmented the working class is.
well thats precisely why i don't actually care to talk about that kind of stuff at length because you're right, we don't know what its going to look like/how it will be done/implemented. we can only guess. but some people latch onto and make bad faith arguments about how it will never happen or its not serious or whatever.
- Nov 9, 2020·1 replyFaygo
the soviet union was one of the most innovative when it came to science and technology
the government was not the individual which is why we wouldnt have apple
- OPNov 9, 2020·1 replyCLB Fractions
the government was not the individual which is why we wouldnt have apple
the individuals behind american technological and scientific did what they did but its often still credited as american innovation so whats your point?
- Nov 9, 2020·1 replyFaygo
the soviet union was one of the most innovative when it came to science and technology
how so when it no longer exists?
- Nov 9, 2020Faygo
the soviet union was one of the most innovative when it came to science and technology
Their innovation was driven by their war interests AND they failed so how innovative were they really?
You’re being stupid on purpose at this point.