I loved it & thought it was great & showcased toxic masculinity very well personally

“You’re like a woman with a Virginia ham in one arm, crying that she has no bread”

March 12 for Many Saints?

just finished my first full rewatch

what a monumental show. it's unfair to compare them but I'd give a very slight edge to The Wire and put it at 1a while The Sopranos is 1b. the writing was immaculate and all of the characters, no matter how big or small, had great depth and development. really impressive how the show excelled at episodes in different genres like comedy, drama, or action.

Gandolfini gave the GOAT performance as a lead actor in a TV show. his presence and range was amazing and nobody else could have pulled it off. iconic portrayal of an antihero

Edie Falco was also amazing as Carmela. she didn't have much to work with in the first three seasons but once they fleshed her character out a bit she held her own against Gandolfini

(ENDING SPOILERS, CAN NEVER GET THE EMBED TO WORK)

as for the ending, I remember how frustrating it was watching it live but it was a courageous open ending. they had a nice f***ing family dinner tho, you can't convince me otherwise

man idk why Omar from the wire didn't tear Jackie Jr cheeks up when he was staying at his crib

Just finished season 6A
When the characters are in their own scenes, thoughts and emotion it feels kinda gorgeous in a way

Read the last part with paulies voice funny af. Actually, my ending would be different but then again it probably wouldn’t hold the test of time so good as this one does.

I thought the ending was clear on what happen?

It is

Just finished.

Word s*** was genius

how?

you could easily argue that Tony recently had a sit down and a truce was brokered in front of a head of family and to then break that truce would be a disrespect to all and would only continue a war that was supposed to be over. not only that but to do a hit in an extremely public restaurant (spur of the moment decision btw, who knew they would be there?) in front of his family also breaks mafia codes, which an old school guy like Butch would be against. so that in favor of Meadow walking through the door, what's the argument for a hit, a suspicious looking guy going to the bathroom and two black dudes?

Fam, I love the portrayal of Tony and I wish he was still alive, but he is dead. Season 6 had alot of hints and foreshadowing regarding how death would feel like. Biggest hint was bobby:

You probably don’t even hear it when it happens, right?”

Which is exactly how the show ends.

inconclusive

you could argue he's dead based on Bobby's line or the member's only jacket guy but I can argue he's alive based on the mafia code of breaking a truce brokered by bosses or the spontaneity of the restaurant. at the end of the day, they purposefully left it ambiguous so that either interpretation is acceptable and neither is provable. really makes it a fascinating finale that wouldn't have been as memorable if it didn't cut to black

A code doesn't mean they need to follow it

Mob guys have been killed in restaurants on the show and plenty of times in real life

Hes obviously dead lol

yo hes gunna be in this
should be a fun movie, cant wait for that tony cameo from his real life son

The entire show shows that the mob era was near its end. Everybody was ratting. The code meant nothing. Also the creator said that Tony was dead

One of the big rules in the Cosa Nostra is not killing in front of family and New Jersey did exactly that to Phil Leotardo. All bets were off at that point.

Also, there's numerous foreshadows, technical cinematography ques and cultural references from the:

• "Members Only" episode
• Meadow being Tony's guardian angel
• Chrissy's 3 o'clock foreshadowing
• The Godfather Part I meeting with Solazzo
• Deliberate callback to Bobby’s comment in "The Blue Comet"

I personally don't like to weigh on either side of Tony's fate, I feel like the show was a book and at the end of it, the reader/audience has to understand and respect whenever the author decides to pluck us out of the world. Most books and shows like to wrap it up cutely but Chase wrote it to where we're kicked out just before finding out - if there was even something important to find out.

It's the most beautiful and perfect ending a show of this calibre could have.

I like when creators refuse to give the closure that audiences usually demand. Part of the reason I usually don't weigh in on this sort of argument. I don't find trying to piece together "what really happened" a very satisfying experience

Reminds me of the ending of Carpenters The Thing. It uses your expectation of narrative conclusion to elicit a feeling of uncertainty/paranoia that wouldn't be able to be conveyed typically.

Does anyone know more of Chase/JG falling out near the end of the show? they kinda bring it up in the podcast.

”You can travel down the road, check on every vine, you can travel down the road, you can travel down the line. But there were few like Jimmy. He was homemade wine. Honest, good, pure, nothing added. He wants you to have a good time, sharing with friends like family. He was homemade wine. You need a dollar? you’ve got Jim. Loyalty and truthfulness, that was him. Believing in something good out there. Never got on the way, he was always fair. A good brother, a good son, a good father. He always tried his best. And all the rest, he was homemade wine.”

— Homemade Wine by Dominic Chianese

Watching season 2 finale. This show has been absolute crack so far

The writing in this is incredible

I still don't get this line

I bet you don’t even hear it when it happens