aLIEN

5y

Yeezus is one of the best albums of all time, period

Vibe

5y

I'm convinced that Rick Rubin ruined this album.

Chickennugget

5y

I wrote an entire paper in college about how Yeezus is postmodern. Talked about how Bound 2 is an exercise in self awareness of Kanye as an idea. Premiering the music video on Ellen was definitely intentional.

Professor probably thought I was a moron for writing a paper about Kanye but hey lol

Chickennugget

5y

I wrote an entire paper in college about how Yeezus is postmodern. Talked about how Bound 2 is an exercise in self awareness of Kanye as an idea. Premiering the music video on Ellen was definitely intentional.

Professor probably thought I was a moron for writing a paper about Kanye but hey lol

PSYCHO_KILLER

5y

its funny because this is post-modern music in the same sense that post-modern art broke free of technical and narrative standards in its display.

and people of now are as opposed to the ideas displayed in yeezus as traditionalists were to ideas introduced by Picasso, Dali, Escher, and the like

PSYCHO_KILLER

5y

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obviously yeezus is not original in that the ideas and sounds themselves are original thoughts, there are definitely albums that read the same in terms of addressing egoism and there are definitely albums that achieve the industrialist, minimalist sound that yeezus had, but to a higher degree.

the main genius behind yeezus is taking both ideas and sounds of each aspect and mixing these two concepts regarding egosim and abrasiveness respectively, then injecting it into a volatile yet extremely mainstream artist like kanye and you achieve a form of narrative bliss where new, completely paradigm shifting ideas are being introduced into the mainstream through a perfect platform (Kanye West)

it really is one of a kind

aLIEN

5y

Tbh, Yeezus conceptually and quality-wise is one of the best albums of all time to me. While some of the ideas might have been explored sonically, they haven't been put into one concise album of 40 minutes without any filler of any kind and so much focus, perfection and polish. The attention to detail on Yeezus is breathtaking.

PSYCHO_KILLER

5y

its an album of contradiction

• attention to detail in an album trying to remove details

• self destruction on an album about how your own ego is so inflated

• kanye being kanye by doing something kanye would never do

aLIEN

5y

Incredible points mate. Man, I'm just so gutted that some seemingly don't even try to get the genius of this album and write it off as just "noise" or even the start of his downfall Thing is so underrated.

2words

5y

Ain’t no subtext get out

PSYCHO_KILLER

5y

yeah breh u right mf's make music jus 2 make s*** sound nice i forgot metro boomin want sum more nibba

PSYCHO_KILLER

5y

obviously yeezus is not original in that the ideas and sounds themselves are original thoughts, there are definitely albums that read the same in terms of addressing egoism and there are definitely albums that achieve the industrialist, minimalist sound that yeezus had, but to a higher degree.

the main genius behind yeezus is taking both ideas and sounds of each aspect and mixing these two concepts regarding egosim and abrasiveness respectively, then injecting it into a volatile yet extremely mainstream artist like kanye and you achieve a form of narrative bliss where new, completely paradigm shifting ideas are being introduced into the mainstream through a perfect platform (Kanye West)

it really is one of a kind

2words

5y

You sound stupid lol Kanye doesn’t even remember the lyrics to his songs and wrote yeezus lyrics in a week, we’re not talking about Lupe or Kendrick. He basically talked about the same s*** with the same persona on Pablo, showing that it wasn’t as much of a conscious decision as it was a natural progression. Yeezus is a good album, you don’t have to lie to yourself and say kanye had some kind of genius concept in mind while writing “sweet and sour sauce” bars to defend or justify it. Kanye does just make music to sound nice his lyrics were never his main focus

PSYCHO_KILLER

5y

TLOP was totally directionless and had like zero of the brash egotistical s*** in Yeezus

and he used the statement "visionaries can be misunderstood by their unenlightened peers" to be a main inspiration in making the album which correaltes directly with what im saying itt where people seem to eat up whatever he does simply because his vision is being consumed by his reputation as an artist

Chickennugget

5y

this was similar to the conclusion I reached, too. What makes it innovative is that it's world-famous and controversial Kanye delivering these sounds.

I do think there is a sonic narrative in Yeezus, one that doesn't get nearly enough credit. It's a postmodern take on hip-hop in that it uses sampling as an aesthetic choice. That sampled bridge in On Site "He'll give us what we need, it may not be what we want" is essential to the mythos of the record for two reasons. One, it represents the audience's perception of what Kanye is supposed to deliver in terms of music: sample-based, melodic hip hop. Which Yeezus obviously doesn't deliver. And then two, and my favorite part, is that that sample isn't even a real sample, its a re-recording of a snippet of a song because Def Jam couldn't get the rights in time. To me, that really shows how intentional the sound of the album is. It was important to convey the aesthetic of the sample, even if they couldn't use an actual sample.

And then Bound 2 is like a f*** you to your preconceived notions of what a Kanye West album should be. It's completely sample based, with no added drums or anything, so it almost sounds like a parody. It's "what we want", but its so campy that it's showing how quaint that is in comparison to where Kanye's head is at now. And ironically, the biggest part of the song, that Charlie Wilson chorus, is supplemented only by a single distorted bass, yet it feels so much grander and epic than the rest of the song. It's proof of the power of Yeezus's minimalism. Then the abrupt cut back to the "real song". Again, like a joke.

I realize I sound like Patrick Bateman rn lol. There's just a lot to talk about with Yeezus and I feel like people only scratch the surface.

2words

5y

I just don’t buy the whole Yeezus as high concept album performance art thing. That’s just where Ye was at, I don’t think he was thinking it out as much as you are. He had already shifted his focus to fashion and just s*** those lyrics out to meet the release date

2words

5y

You sound stupid lol Kanye doesn’t even remember the lyrics to his songs and wrote yeezus lyrics in a week, we’re not talking about Lupe or Kendrick. He basically talked about the same s*** with the same persona on Pablo, showing that it wasn’t as much of a conscious decision as it was a natural progression. Yeezus is a good album, you don’t have to lie to yourself and say kanye had some kind of genius concept in mind while writing “sweet and sour sauce” bars to defend or justify it. Kanye does just make music to sound nice his lyrics were never his main focus

PSYCHO_KILLER

5y

well yes but part of artistic a***ysis is being able to understand why where an an artist was mentally during production led to choices made in the album

subtext isn't always something that is intentionally implanted by the artist and it can simply be an unconcious effect from their lifestyle

a lot of yeezus was concious in terms of being brash, abrasive, and subverting expectations but things like the triple layered subtext regarding egoism we see could've probably been made up in like three sentences during a studio session for one song with the rest of the concept being fleshed out in the subconcious production of the song