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  • TheFader

    OVO did play a big part in killing R&B though

    I actually blame the R&B 2000s legends for making cheap ass electro pop for the death of r&b

  • Dec 23, 2024
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    Notmyfirst

    idk how sza and him havent linked again

    So good

  • Dec 23, 2024
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    TheFader

    He’s one of the innovators man

    The innovator became the imitator nigga out here tryna rap like Thug

    Breaks my heart as a day 1 P3 defender

  • Dec 23, 2024
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    deleteduser579

    that convo done to death lowkey

    blame it on the Tillers and the PNDs who killed off needing to singing and bringing in that “toxic” s***

    current state of R&B is downstream of that s*** and no one wants to admit it because they loved TRAPSOUL and had a dad hat in college

    I think the stylistic change of pace was necessary at the time… but we are 10 years past that point and it has been stuck in the mud since then

  • Dec 23, 2024
    Corporate Mór

    It's a reference to La La Land

    Oh I don’t remember that line.

  • Dec 23, 2024
    JeffersonSteelflex

    you think eminem is a GOAT. I don’t give a f*** what you think

    you stalking me bro?

  • Dec 23, 2024

    23 pages in 2 hours is wild, merry Christmas to OP

  • Dec 23, 2024
    TheFader

    We always talking bout mainstream rap being dead in the water, it’s been time we have that conversation about mainstream R&B

    That s*** been on life support for 10 years at this point

    The revival is otw, shoutout niggas with range

  • Dec 23, 2024
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    To the bino, Tyler convo. Bino is better

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    cryforhell

    The innovator became the imitator nigga out here tryna rap like Thug

    Breaks my heart as a day 1 P3 defender

    I think the main reason is that he stopped producing his music. He was at his best when he was producing his own beats. Genuinely some of the most unique and singular production I’ve ever heard

  • Dec 23, 2024

    Sky’s the limit when white folks like your raps

  • Dec 23, 2024
    Smacked Voodoo

    So good

    !https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxosvQJXyho

    love this song I meant recently

  • Dec 23, 2024
    TheFader

    I think the main reason is that he stopped producing his music. He was at his best when he was producing his own beats. Genuinely some of the most unique and singular production I’ve ever heard

    Facts

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    Oblivion X

    To the bino, Tyler convo. Bino is better

    tyler dont got a redbone in him thats fasho

  • Dec 23, 2024
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    I only read the first two paragraphs but I think Lil Yachty is a much better example of a rapper who is carried by industry relationships

  • Dec 23, 2024
    Notmyfirst

    tyler dont got a redbone in him thats fasho

    I wanted to say this earlier but tensions was too high LOL

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    JPEGMAFIA

    I only read the first two paragraphs but I think Lil Yachty is a much better example of a rapper who is carried by industry relationships

    Every time I see another artist hyping him up and calling him an innovator I truly have to cringe

  • Dec 23, 2024
    Notmyfirst

    tyler dont got a redbone in him thats fasho

    Big pause

  • Dec 23, 2024
    Smacked Voodoo

    Lotta these new female singers owe a lot to Corrine Bailey Rae and Goapele

    I’ll say half.

    Jhene Aiko and her minions need to pay homage #FISHERR

  • Dec 23, 2024
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    TheFader

    Every time I see another artist hyping him up and calling him an innovator I truly have to cringe

    james blake making an album with him of all people

  • Dec 23, 2024
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    deleteduser579

    liv.e is special

    so glad she didn’t get sucked into that faux-D’Angelo neo soul that nigga Siifu be doing

    Whoooooooooa.

    Bro a rapper what are you talking about?

  • Dec 23, 2024
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    Man f*** Bryson Tiller

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    Oblivion X

    To the bino, Tyler convo. Bino is better

    In what sense?
    Obviously Bino is a better singer but I don’t know who I’d say is the better rapper.

    Bino is more versatile but idk they’re both pretty great. It’s hard for me to say, imma fan of both

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    JPEGMAFIA

    I only read the first two paragraphs but I think Lil Yachty is a much better example of a rapper who is carried by industry relationships

    He’s a way worse offender tbh dude is virtually talentless and has huge direction problems

  • TheFader

    I think the stylistic change of pace was necessary at the time… but we are 10 years past that point and it has been stuck in the mud since then

    the Summer Walkers, Kiana Ledes, Mariah The Scientists are all directly derivative of that wave overall lmao

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