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  • CKL TML 🌺
    Aug 12, 2020

    XI. Forums

    move to cs

  • CKL TML 🌺
    Aug 12, 2020
    fashion killa

    at this point safe literally just a legitimate journalist. We should make a safe sxn or sticky every thread

    Best threads on this site next to the accidental classic ones

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    Great thread Safe! One aspect for you to consider is to dive deeper into the payment segment. Something like how to spend your money wisely on promotion, what channels are worth it, paying for ads etc. If you need help let me know

  • Aug 12, 2020

    As a person myself who has worked with labels and did digital marketing on socials for labels for years I think you killed it bro. Good thread.

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    safe

    Disagree
    To be come a superstar maybe but if you make good enough music and promote yourself right then I think it’s very doable to get to a point of getting label meetings and the like at least

    Yikes my guy, sorry to say but Luck has a huge factor in success. If you don’t get your s*** promoted to the right person. Then you are SOL

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    In i will read later

  • Aug 12, 2020
    Emery Atreides

    Yikes my guy, sorry to say but Luck has a huge factor in success. If you don’t get your s*** promoted to the right person. Then you are SOL

    I get what you mean but if you get your music to a quality level it is absolutely achievable to get on playlists and to start getting attention

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    Is it possible to be an amazing musician and just never be discovered.
    Like what if you were J Dilla level good as a producer but were terrible at promoting your music. (not saying that im as good as j dilla)

  • Aug 12, 2020

    @safe lol now all you got to do is schedule these activities in a 24hr cycle. Much props man

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    @safe your best one yet. The amount of aspiring artists who frequent this site would probably be jaw-dropping if we knew the true amount; you providing a no-bs cheat sheet for them is beautiful

    I feel it is only healthy to at least try and challenge an aspect of what you said, so right here -

    “Have you ever noticed how rare it is to find artists who are unpopular and are making fantastic music?“

    Do you feel this may just be more of an anecdotal experience? Some of the most talented artists and musicians end up never getting anywhere, and we obviously know the sounds that reach the top are oftentimes never the “best” per say.

    I do agree that the music should be stellar, but look at all of the not-so-stellar music that we all seem to have heard.

    I feel as though 90% of “making it” as an artist is how you market yourself/make connections, and the “making high quality music” part of it depends on more heavy-weighted topics such as integrity, values, and what you want out of life; topics that stand independent of being a successful artist in the monetary or celebratory sense

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    Is there a market for instrumentals? Not like lofi type s*** but like trap influenced music that rides more like a song than a beat, almost like electronic/hip hop fusion

    I might put my music on Spotify etc. But I wanna know what the market is

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    Also very good thread

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    Blew up already (thanks to OP)

  • Aug 12, 2020
    Mkiza

    Great thread Safe! One aspect for you to consider is to dive deeper into the payment segment. Something like how to spend your money wisely on promotion, what channels are worth it, paying for ads etc. If you need help let me know

    Djbooth does some good articles consistently on the do’s and donts and etc on paid promotion

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    hey man relax

    @safe your best one yet. The amount of aspiring artists who frequent this site would probably be jaw-dropping if we knew the true amount; you providing a no-bs cheat sheet for them is beautiful

    I feel it is only healthy to at least try and challenge an aspect of what you said, so right here -

    “Have you ever noticed how rare it is to find artists who are unpopular and are making fantastic music?“

    Do you feel this may just be more of an anecdotal experience? Some of the most talented artists and musicians end up never getting anywhere, and we obviously know the sounds that reach the top are oftentimes never the “best” per say.

    I do agree that the music should be stellar, but look at all of the not-so-stellar music that we all seem to have heard.

    I feel as though 90% of “making it” as an artist is how you market yourself/make connections, and the “making high quality music” part of it depends on more heavy-weighted topics such as integrity, values, and what you want out of life; topics that stand independent of being a successful artist in the monetary or celebratory sense

    Nah people making incredible music won’t be with 1k monthly listener.

    If you making incredible music you will be at least Larry June/ slums/ grieslda/ lil tier

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    hey man relax

    @safe your best one yet. The amount of aspiring artists who frequent this site would probably be jaw-dropping if we knew the true amount; you providing a no-bs cheat sheet for them is beautiful

    I feel it is only healthy to at least try and challenge an aspect of what you said, so right here -

    “Have you ever noticed how rare it is to find artists who are unpopular and are making fantastic music?“

    Do you feel this may just be more of an anecdotal experience? Some of the most talented artists and musicians end up never getting anywhere, and we obviously know the sounds that reach the top are oftentimes never the “best” per say.

    I do agree that the music should be stellar, but look at all of the not-so-stellar music that we all seem to have heard.

    I feel as though 90% of “making it” as an artist is how you market yourself/make connections, and the “making high quality music” part of it depends on more heavy-weighted topics such as integrity, values, and what you want out of life; topics that stand independent of being a successful artist in the monetary or celebratory sense

    thats a good point
    more so with that I mean its hard to be making music at a really high level of quality WHILE also promoting yourself well and not find success
    that doesnt mean success in terms of millions of dollars and fame but just reasonable success some money, label meetings and deals etc
    but all of that is contingent on marketing yourself like you say. you can make godly music and never be found unless you're marketing yourself and putting it out there

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    Shammy

    Is there a market for instrumentals? Not like lofi type s*** but like trap influenced music that rides more like a song than a beat, almost like electronic/hip hop fusion

    I might put my music on Spotify etc. But I wanna know what the market is

    not sure tbh
    there definitely is for electronic music but idk to what extent w fusion

  • Aug 12, 2020
    Baby Beats

    Is it possible to be an amazing musician and just never be discovered.
    Like what if you were J Dilla level good as a producer but were terrible at promoting your music. (not saying that im as good as j dilla)

    if you were terrible at promoting your music yea absolutely

    the chances of being randomly found on soundcloud are miniscule

    you dont put your music out there people aren't gonna hear it no matter how good it is

  • Aug 12, 2020

    OP must have given this thread viagra because

    OK DIS HARD

  • Aug 13, 2020
    soccerfanj

    Nah people making incredible music won’t be with 1k monthly listener.

    If you making incredible music you will be at least Larry June/ slums/ grieslda/ lil tier

    how exactly have you come to this conclusion?

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    Nah people making incredible music won’t be with 1k monthly listener.

    If you making incredible music you will be at least Larry June/ slums/ grieslda/ lil tier

    Even Larry puts out a ton of music markets stays active on socials etc. He's doing a lot and he's just breaking thru

    Idk what the exact correlation between good music and popularity is but it's definitely not one to one. It's a lotta leg work u gotta put in always

    Even then it's probably not always gonna work out right? Like I know of artists who r rly good that aren't super popular I'm sure we all do

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    Shammy

    Even Larry puts out a ton of music markets stays active on socials etc. He's doing a lot and he's just breaking thru

    Idk what the exact correlation between good music and popularity is but it's definitely not one to one. It's a lotta leg work u gotta put in always

    Even then it's probably not always gonna work out right? Like I know of artists who r rly good that aren't super popular I'm sure we all do

    I mean thing like this are a combination lock where many variables and things have to be in place for you to break through.

    Someone like jai Paul can just make music and have it work for him cuz his music is so good.
    While some like Larry ( no disrespect to Larry but he’s music quality ain’t on a CRAZY lvl) you have to Accommodate with pushing your brand more.

  • Aug 13, 2020
    soccerfanj

    I mean thing like this are a combination lock where many variables and things have to be in place for you to break through.

    Someone like jai Paul can just make music and have it work for him cuz his music is so good.
    While some like Larry ( no disrespect to Larry but he’s music quality ain’t on a CRAZY lvl) you have to Accommodate with pushing your brand more.

    Even jai paul had connects in the industry before he got btstu to zane lowe.

    He knew thru rostam who found him randomly on myspace iirc. and i think AK had a foot in the door too