OPOct 22, 2020
coltrupFirst graph is a manipulation of data, conditions of suffering and poverty are increasing outside of the core countries.
Second graph is laughable because it's the aforementioned core countries with a tiny handful of others tacked on. This thread is about capitalism's impact upon those at the periphery.
Can't immediately dismiss the last graph at a glance, but if it's anything like the rest of the material WDI puts out ..
and this as well lol
Oct 22, 2020·5 repliescoltrupFirst graph is a manipulation of data, conditions of suffering and poverty are increasing outside of the core countries.
Second graph is laughable because it's the aforementioned core countries with a tiny handful of others tacked on. This thread is about capitalism's impact upon those at the periphery.
Can't immediately dismiss the last graph at a glance, but if it's anything like the rest of the material WDI puts out ..
Anyone with half a f***ing brain can tell that the world has become a drastically better place for billions of people in the last 100 years thanks to capitalism if you can't see that then you're going out of your way to ignore the facts
Oct 22, 2020GIO GIO
Yes capitalism is so awful for the worldextreme poverty...
after that there's poverty... which is still poverty...
And at what cost does people get out extreme poverty? Working 12h a day to still lack of fundamental conditions?
You can't just look at graphs bro.
Oct 22, 2020GIO GIOAnyone with half a f***ing brain can tell that the world has become a drastically better place for billions of people in the last 100 years thanks to capitalism if you can't see that then you're going out of your way to ignore the facts
You can thank modern advances in science actually.
Claiming capitalism is what "bettered everyone's lives" just means you're brainwashed by the very system enslaving you.
- OPOct 22, 2020·2 repliesGIO GIO
Anyone with half a f***ing brain can tell that the world has become a drastically better place for billions of people in the last 100 years thanks to capitalism if you can't see that then you're going out of your way to ignore the facts
life didn't get better for the working class and poor because of capitalism
it got better for them because of the people who resisted it and made demands of capitalism
- Oct 22, 2020Synopsis
life didn't get better for the working class and poor because of capitalism
it got better for them because of the people who resisted it and made demands of capitalism
Yes it did.
- Oct 22, 2020·1 replyGIO GIO
Anyone with half a f***ing brain can tell that the world has become a drastically better place for billions of people in the last 100 years thanks to capitalism if you can't see that then you're going out of your way to ignore the facts
I'm willing to show you the statistics showing that the opposite is true, but your appeal to "just look outside bro" is weird.
90% of people who share your ideology have never even been to one of these countries.
and if they were to go, conditions would confirm the exact opposite.
- OPOct 22, 2020·1 reply
the 8 hour work day, the minimum wage etc., no child labor are not things that were inherent to capitalism. they were victories that were fought and won by the people.
- Oct 22, 2020Synopsis
life didn't get better for the working class and poor because of capitalism
it got better for them because of the people who resisted it and made demands of capitalism
That's what it's all about. If capitalism was aloud full libertarian freedom we would be literal slaves.
It's all about the working class standing up and fighting against capitalism just to make it sort of work even with thousands left hungry.
Capitalism relies on giving the worker as little as possible before they rise up.
- Oct 22, 2020·3 repliescoltrup
I'm willing to show you the statistics showing that the opposite is true, but your appeal to "just look outside bro" is weird.
90% of people who share your ideology have never even been to one of these countries.
and if they were to go, conditions would confirm the exact opposite.
Statistics that show that infant mortality rate is increasing? And that people can't read? And that poverty has increased over the last 100 years globally? Would love to see it. The fact that you b**** and complain about life in the United States (and if not you, synopsis at least) is proof you've never been to any of these countries
- Oct 22, 2020GIO GIO
Statistics that show that infant mortality rate is increasing? And that people can't read? And that poverty has increased over the last 100 years globally? Would love to see it. The fact that you b**** and complain about life in the United States (and if not you, synopsis at least) is proof you've never been to any of these countries
Genuinely cannot attribute that to capitalism. No causation just correlation.
These advances are evident in modern socialist societies anyways.
- OPOct 22, 2020·2 replies
what did capitalism do for black people? look up their median household wealth in 2020. it certainly wasn't helping them advance when it enslaved them, marginalized them etc.,
look at the actual material gains of the working class of all races in the past 4-5 decades compared to the top 1%. look at the massive amounts of inequality in some of these countries that capitalism has improved. we have 500k homeless people just in america. how has capitalism served them? or the 45k who die every year because they can't afford healthcare.
Oct 22, 2020GIO GIOAnyone with half a f***ing brain can tell that the world has become a drastically better place for billions of people in the last 100 years thanks to capitalism if you can't see that then you're going out of your way to ignore the facts
lmaooooo
- OPOct 22, 2020·1 replyGIO GIO
Statistics that show that infant mortality rate is increasing? And that people can't read? And that poverty has increased over the last 100 years globally? Would love to see it. The fact that you b**** and complain about life in the United States (and if not you, synopsis at least) is proof you've never been to any of these countries
braindead bootlicker.
- Oct 22, 2020Synopsis
what did capitalism do for black people? look up their median household wealth in 2020. it certainly wasn't helping them advance when it enslaved them, marginalized them etc.,
look at the actual material gains of the working class of all races in the past 4-5 decades compared to the top 1%. look at the massive amounts of inequality in some of these countries that capitalism has improved. we have 500k homeless people just in america. how has capitalism served them? or the 45k who die every year because they can't afford healthcare.
What did it do for black people?
Hmmmm.... Let's see wasn't the slave trade the largest capitalist market of all time until recently?
Capitalism doesn't give a f*** about human rights.
- OPOct 22, 2020
"capitalism raises literacy rates!"
looks at all the socialist countries who achieved p much full literacy
again, correlation =/= causation.
- OPOct 22, 2020
also, lets not forget that capitalism is literally going to kill our planet.
- Oct 22, 2020·1 replySynopsis
what did capitalism do for black people? look up their median household wealth in 2020. it certainly wasn't helping them advance when it enslaved them, marginalized them etc.,
look at the actual material gains of the working class of all races in the past 4-5 decades compared to the top 1%. look at the massive amounts of inequality in some of these countries that capitalism has improved. we have 500k homeless people just in america. how has capitalism served them? or the 45k who die every year because they can't afford healthcare.
I'm in favor of reparations for black people due to low median household wealth due to a lack of passed down wealth starting from slavery. S*** is not perfect. My point is you can't ignore the benefits that it's had on billions of people
- Oct 22, 2020
"I prefer a prosperous stock market over basic human rights and preventing climate change/collapse"
- Oct 22, 2020·4 repliesSynopsis
braindead bootlicker.
Funny how I'm braindead but I'll be more successful than your entire bloodline
- OPOct 22, 2020·1 replyGIO GIO
I'm in favor of reparations for black people due to low median household wealth due to a lack of passed down wealth starting from slavery. S*** is not perfect. My point is you can't ignore the benefits that it's had on billions of people
You telling me what I can't ignore while you continue to ignore the fact that capitalism literally is killing the planet, keeping untold numbers in poverty, killing countless others etc,.
Oct 22, 2020GIO GIOFunny how I'm braindead but I'll be more successful than your entire bloodline
- Oct 22, 2020GIO GIO
Statistics that show that infant mortality rate is increasing? And that people can't read? And that poverty has increased over the last 100 years globally? Would love to see it. The fact that you b**** and complain about life in the United States (and if not you, synopsis at least) is proof you've never been to any of these countries
Adequate data for a 100 year timescale doesn't really exist. The institutions trying to make century-long claims are usually cherrypicking
I can definitely show you that things have gotten worse globally in the last few decades, from the standpoint of poverty etc
Idk what you're trying to say with that last part. I do live in the United States, if that's what you're asking.
Oct 22, 2020GIO GIOAnyone with half a f***ing brain can tell that the world has become a drastically better place for billions of people in the last 100 years thanks to capitalism if you can't see that then you're going out of your way to ignore the facts
yeah it may have helped the world someway, but it's time for it to go.. it's doing more damage than good right now
- Oct 22, 2020·1 replySynopsis
You telling me what I can't ignore while you continue to ignore the fact that capitalism literally is killing the planet, keeping untold numbers in poverty, killing countless others etc,.
There need to be regulations that prevent s*** like climate change of course. But you can't ignore the benefits that it's given us and many others
