Sep 21, 2021Example of sales showing context of staying power of an album
Sep 21, 2021·1 reply
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Sep 21, 2021·1 reply
JeffersonSteelflexMan I can critique anything I want. Y'all love to throw around that subjective s*** whenever it's your faves being criticized but never when you're doing the critiquing.
Nigga I got a MF DOOM Earl Sweatshirt avi idgaf about Drake 😂 but you weren’t giving your opinion you was trying to speak for everybody lol
Sep 21, 2021·2 repliesJeffersonSteelflexMan I can critique anything I want. Y'all love to throw around that subjective s*** whenever it's your faves being criticized but never when you're doing the critiquing.
It's subjective either way. Anyone can critique music and state their opinion.
Sep 21, 2021
999WrldDrake is not the new MJ shut the f*** up
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- Sep 21, 2021·1 replyMore Coffee Please
Nigga I got a MF DOOM Earl Sweatshirt avi idgaf about Drake 😂 but you weren’t giving your opinion you was trying to speak for everybody lol
A lot of people on this site feel that way. Yes it’s my opinion, but I also see a lot of people here feel the same way.
- Sep 21, 2021Dedication 666
It's subjective either way. Anyone can critique music and state their opinion.
Yes I know but it’s only brought up when it’s Drake’s music being criticized and I’m tired of it lol Keep the same energy for everyone.
Sep 21, 2021We need a "statistics" section for you people who like to talk numbers and sales more than bout music
- Sep 21, 2021
Believe it or not sales have way more to do with promo, marketing, how easily palatable/basic something is, etc. than the quality of the music.
Yes if something is massively popular there is probably a reason for it. Sales do not indicate quality tho. Quality indicates quality, and im sorry but there's really no objective measure of quality you can point to and say "look im right, this guy really is the best". I know its hard but thats life.
The most I'm willing to concede is that massive sales indicates that something doesn't absolutely suck.
Sep 21, 2021
martian masterThe McDonalds argument is so played out
With streaming/albums everything is (about) the same price and same access to all. If people CHOOSE to listen to whoever selling the most, thats because theyre good.
No outside factors like price or availability. Mcdonalds is cheap and found everywhere, while some better eatery options (ex Chik Fil A) Are not.
Drake and whoever selling less are on the same platforms and for the same cost..
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- Sep 21, 2021JeffersonSteelflex
A lot of people on this site feel that way. Yes it’s my opinion, but I also see a lot of people here feel the same way.
Gotchu
KEV 💥Sep 21, 2021sales can be important but are not the only factor
Sep 21, 2021SHAQUILLEIts ironic cause the niggas who bring up sales the most be the main ones telling people they dont go outside but when you actually do talk about music irl nobody brings up sales. Never heard it once in my 22 years
Exactly.
Insecure niggas projecting on this site all the time
S*** kinda sad
Sep 21, 2021Very true OP we all know Ed Sheeran Shape of You best song ever 10/10
Sep 21, 2021Drake is the marketing/self promotion GOAT of rap
Sep 21, 2021
YA DOG ACEThis argument would only work if the most popular music was a small fraction of the cost of the "higher caliber" music... which it's not. Nearly all albums take the same amount of your money and time to listen to. Obviously McDonalds would not be popular if high-quality filet mignon was available on every street corner for $1.99
Drake music's (along with other pop artists) gets marketed aggressively more than other acts
- Sep 21, 2021·1 replyDedication 666
All music cost the same amount.
People don't eat McDonald's just cuz it's cheap lol
Marketing + addictive junk food+ availability = customers en masse
If money was the sole factor more people would eat home cooked meals since it's cheaper
They don't cuz McDonald's is avaliable everywhere, it's easier, loaded with ingredients to make the food taste good, and they use alot of marketing to attract customers (adds, campaigns, putting the burger smell in air vents, putting anti-vomit agents in food to prevent people from feeling sick after eating too much etc)
- Sep 21, 2021martian master
The McDonalds argument is so played out
With streaming/albums everything is (about) the same price and same access to all. If people CHOOSE to listen to whoever selling the most, thats because theyre good.
No outside factors like price or availability. Mcdonalds is cheap and found everywhere, while some better eatery options (ex Chik Fil A) Are not.
Drake and whoever selling less are on the same platforms and for the same cost..
Yes playlisting doesn't work in favor of bigger artists
Steaming leveled the playing field for everyone....
- Sep 21, 2021·1 replyDonutHole
People don't eat McDonald's just cuz it's cheap lol
Marketing + addictive junk food+ availability = customers en masse
If money was the sole factor more people would eat home cooked meals since it's cheaper
They don't cuz McDonald's is avaliable everywhere, it's easier, loaded with ingredients to make the food taste good, and they use alot of marketing to attract customers (adds, campaigns, putting the burger smell in air vents, putting anti-vomit agents in food to prevent people from feeling sick after eating too much etc)
Conveince is a huge factor for Mcdonalds success. But this wouldn't apply to music since they are on the SAME PLATFORM for the SAME COST. Your comparison is invalid.
- Sep 21, 2021·1 replyDedication 666
It's subjective either way. Anyone can critique music and state their opinion.
Certain things in music aren't subjective
Lazy songwriting and using formulas isn't a subjective matter
there's a difference in quality between a classic jazz composition and drake singles - which has nothing to do with subjectivity but more with what is valued in music (or any art form) - usually effort + skill + creativity gets alot of praise
Relying on formulas isn't really making much effort or being very creative (for popstars most of gge time)
The debate around drake's music isn't if it's enjoyable or not (which would be subjective) but if it's good or not for such a big artists to put out (with all the resources, experience and connections he has)
That's a debate people can reach a consensus on and is totally worth having imo but y'all wanna chalk everything up to "music is subjective" to avoid it
- Sep 21, 2021·editedDedication 666
Conveince is a huge factor for Mcdonalds success. But this wouldn't apply to music since they are on the SAME PLATFORM for the SAME COST. Your comparison is invalid.
Some artists get pushed aggressively by their marketing teams on these same streaming platforms
- Sep 21, 2021·1 replyDonutHole
Certain things in music aren't subjective
Lazy songwriting and using formulas isn't a subjective matter
there's a difference in quality between a classic jazz composition and drake singles - which has nothing to do with subjectivity but more with what is valued in music (or any art form) - usually effort + skill + creativity gets alot of praise
Relying on formulas isn't really making much effort or being very creative (for popstars most of gge time)
The debate around drake's music isn't if it's enjoyable or not (which would be subjective) but if it's good or not for such a big artists to put out (with all the resources, experience and connections he has)
That's a debate people can reach a consensus on and is totally worth having imo but y'all wanna chalk everything up to "music is subjective" to avoid it
So your opinion = fact? You saying music isn't subjective is false. People reached a general consensus CLB > Donda but I bet that you would do anything in your power to say that is false?
