I knew about the WW2 stuff but til 96??
Do you have any links on that?
"Japan sterilisation law victims included nine-year-olds" bbc.com/news/world-asia-65958119
yeah I was shocked also, so f***ed
"Japan sterilisation law victims included nine-year-olds" https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-65958119
yeah I was shocked also, so f***ed
Thank you..fuck this
Thank you..fuck this
the fact doctors there would just sterilize you if they felt like it and you would think you just got a vax there for years... Gotta give it to the antivaxers for once that's scary as hell
Mason and dixon unbelievable payoff at the end. Made me cry.
Against the day is next
And you too.
Just finished Vineland. What a sweet, funny, captivating story. Maybe my favorite Pynchon now.
When the family all comes together at the end it's like The Royal Tenenbaums.
How the war on d**** fractures out through the characters is so beautiful, it's like a spiritual sequel to Inherent Vice, the manifestation of that foreboding wave.
I could see myself returning to this again.
Just finished Vineland. What a sweet, funny, captivating story. Maybe my favorite Pynchon now.
When the family all comes together at the end it's like The Royal Tenenbaums.
How the war on d**** fractures out through the characters is so beautiful, it's like a spiritual sequel to Inherent Vice, the manifestation of that foreboding wave.
I could see myself returning to this again.
Underrated book for sure
biblioklept.org/2019/05/16/the-spilled-the-broken-world-from-thomas-pynchons-vineland
This has to be one of my favorite passages from his entire bibliography
Just started doing a reading group of Gravity’s Rainbow with a couple friends. About 80 pages in, crazy ass book. Loving it so far tho
Death Is Just Around The Corner is a podcast that basically dedicated like 10 straight episodes to understanding Pynchon in the context of his life and the events of the world around him. Worth a listen
Yeah this podcast is what got me interested in him cuz he’d mention it on random episodes. Haven’t listened to any of the Pynchon episodes themselves yet tho, want to wait until I’m finished with Gravity’s Rainbow so it doesn’t affect my reaction/interpretation of things
Reading my first Pynchon book with The Crying of Lot 49! His writing and prose is so interesting and idiosyncratic to me. A third into the book and still getting used to it.
Just started doing a reading group of Gravity’s Rainbow with a couple friends. About 80 pages in, crazy ass book. Loving it so far tho
Did you finish it? I read it in like 2.5 months. Incredible read. One of if not my favorite book of all time and potentially might be the most important novel ever made
Reading my first Pynchon book with The Crying of Lot 49! His writing and prose is so interesting and idiosyncratic to me. A third into the book and still getting used to it.
Just finished and I didn’t really enjoy this much. I love the idea of a rogue postal service who secretly run the world but what I got was quite a boring and structural tale of an unsolved mystery. About 40 pages in, you realize you don’t really give a s*** about what the Trystero is..
20 pages into Gravity’s Rainbow, now this is interesting.
Planning to take my time with this and make a lot of notes to really grasp the story even though everyone says to ignore and experience the words (they think dis Tenet).
Vineland was such a blast to read and I can’t wait to see what PTA does with it
Someone told me I’d like Pynchon bc I love Don Delillo and Ben Lerner so much. Is there one I should def start with ? Like the quintessential Pynchon ?
Someone told me I’d like Pynchon bc I love Don Delillo and Ben Lerner so much. Is there one I should def start with ? Like the quintessential Pynchon ?
People will always say start with CL49, Inherent Vice, Bleeding Edge, or Vineland because they’re the most straight forward and accessible. Which is all fine and well. But I did Gravity’s Rainbow and loved it. Probably my favorite novel which is such a lit bro thing to say but god damn. Before GR I read half of CL49 and didn’t really vibe with it, ironically. Came back to it and finished after GR and I liked it a lot. Everyone’s different.
Vineland was such a blast to read and I can’t wait to see what PTA does with it
Half way through it
Vineland was such a blast to read and I can’t wait to see what PTA does with it
It’s actually becoming my 2nd favorite of his. Which isn’t even fair because I like GR for diffrent reasons than Vineland.
20 pages into Gravity’s Rainbow, now this is interesting.
Planning to take my time with this and make a lot of notes to really grasp the story even though everyone says to ignore and experience the words (they think dis Tenet).
I say on a first read to let it wash over you. My copy is just underlined to hell with notes scribbled in the margins and sides but nothing too crazy
People will always say start with CL49, Inherent Vice, Bleeding Edge, or Vineland because they’re the most straight forward and accessible. Which is all fine and well. But I did Gravity’s Rainbow and loved it. Probably my favorite novel which is such a lit bro thing to say but god damn. Before GR I read half of CL49 and didn’t really vibe with it, ironically. Came back to it and finished after GR and I liked it a lot. Everyone’s different.
Good look, I’ve heard the most chatter about GR and Inherent Vice, gonna get those w a gift card and start w GR. Trying not to go in with too crazy high of expectations, but hearing how ppl talk about his writing and knowing the stuff I’m into, it’s hard lol
People will always say start with CL49, Inherent Vice, Bleeding Edge, or Vineland because they’re the most straight forward and accessible. Which is all fine and well. But I did Gravity’s Rainbow and loved it. Probably my favorite novel which is such a lit bro thing to say but god damn. Before GR I read half of CL49 and didn’t really vibe with it, ironically. Came back to it and finished after GR and I liked it a lot. Everyone’s different.
As someone who’s not the best at picking up on plot points, one thing I liked about Gravity’s Rainbow was that it gave me permission to be okay with not understanding. It’s impossible to understand at first, so you just have to surrender.
I'm 60 pages in and this is quite incredible thus far. I'm trying to understand as much as possible therefore lots of notes and supplementary reading. Going through guides and group reading discussions and as a result have a good grasp of the plot. I'm sure it's going to get much tougher but putting in this sort of work is refreshing.
Also, the chapters with Roger Mexico and Jessica Swanlake are so beautiful. Part 1, episode 6 is just perfect writing.
“By now her hand's reaching out, about to touch his shoulder. She rests her cheek on her own arm, hair spilling, drowsy, watching him. Can't get a decent argument going with her. How he's tried. She uses her silences like stroking hands to divert him and hush their corners of rooms, bedcovers, tabletops accidental spaces. Even at the cinema watching that awful Going My Way, the day they met, he saw every white straying of her ungauntleted hands, could feel in his skin each saccade of her olive, her amber, her coffee-colored eyes. He's wasted gallons of paint thinner striking his faithful Zippo, its charred wick, virility giving way to thrift, rationed down to a little stub, the blue fame sparking about the edges in the dark, the many kinds of dark, just to see what's happening with her face. Each new flame, a new face. And there've been the moments, more of them lately too times when face-to-face there has been no way to tell which of them is which. Both at the same time feeling the same eerie confusion . . . something like looking in a mirror by surprise but . . more than that, the feeling of actually being joined . . . when after- who knows? two minutes, a week? they realize, separate again, what's been going on, that Roger and Jessica were merged into a joint creature unaware of itself. . . . In a life he has cursed, again and again, for its need to believe so much in the trans-observable, here is the first, the very first real magic: data he can't argue away.”
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I'm 60 pages in and this is quite incredible thus far. I'm trying to understand as much as possible therefore lots of notes and supplementary reading. Going through guides and group reading discussions and as a result have a good grasp of the plot. I'm sure it's going to get much tougher but putting in this sort of work is refreshing.
Also, the chapters with Roger Mexico and Jessica Swanlake are so beautiful. Part 1, episode 6 is just perfect writing.
“By now her hand's reaching out, about to touch his shoulder. She rests her cheek on her own arm, hair spilling, drowsy, watching him. Can't get a decent argument going with her. How he's tried. She uses her silences like stroking hands to divert him and hush their corners of rooms, bedcovers, tabletops accidental spaces. Even at the cinema watching that awful Going My Way, the day they met, he saw every white straying of her ungauntleted hands, could feel in his skin each saccade of her olive, her amber, her coffee-colored eyes. He's wasted gallons of paint thinner striking his faithful Zippo, its charred wick, virility giving way to thrift, rationed down to a little stub, the blue fame sparking about the edges in the dark, the many kinds of dark, just to see what's happening with her face. Each new flame, a new face. And there've been the moments, more of them lately too times when face-to-face there has been no way to tell which of them is which. Both at the same time feeling the same eerie confusion . . . something like looking in a mirror by surprise but . . more than that, the feeling of actually being joined . . . when after- who knows? two minutes, a week? they realize, separate again, what's been going on, that Roger and Jessica were merged into a joint creature unaware of itself. . . . In a life he has cursed, again and again, for its need to believe so much in the trans-observable, here is the first, the very first real magic: data he can't argue away.”
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Wow that was beautiful to read
I wish I can write like that