Sep 3, 2023
Bonesv2Who tf Johnny Montana
Scarface bro..
Sep 3, 2023username not foundWho tf has snoop dogg in their top 5…
Funny you mention Dr Dre only has a few legendary albums…he only has a few albums total
kind of negates your point. Jay-Z, let’s be real he’s great he absolutely is a legend but not much of a mainstream casual listener pick like what OP is describing with some zoomer throwing Lil Tjay in. Jay is more of a strict hip-hop head choice rather than widely praised as an all time great.
Pac and Biggie on the other hand will come up in many more peoples top 5 lists which is the point I was originally making. I believe this is caused by their early deaths and what that did to skyrocket them in peoples eyes without a second thought.
Which is what we’re now seeing with zoomers for X and Juice wrld
How does it negate my point? If anything it just proves my point. If Dre dropped 3-4 mid albums he would still be considered a goat because of how legendary his first 2 solo albums were.
Mid/forgettable albums aren't what prevent rappers from entering top 5-10 lists. If we're being real damn near every legendary rapper that didn't die went on to drop albums that didn't do as well as their first couple of albums.
I already named some but there's also Em whose post-Eminem Show albums are considered absolute dogshit, 50, Wu Tang Clan (as a group and as solo acts), etc
- Sep 3, 2023·edited·1 reply
I'm not even mad at people having Juice, Pop Smoke, XXX, etc in their top 5s but let's just call it what is it; zoomers preferring recent stuff over classic stuff
- Sep 3, 2023·edited
I think Juice and XXX would still be in a lot of zoomers top 5-10 even if they didn't die tbh
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- Sep 3, 2023
imma call the dance crew to your train line to sonically terrorize your ears your entire train ride home.
- Sep 3, 2023math fifty
she say she a virgin its hurtin
when you big its always gonna be a yea yea moment
"omg its so big it hurts"
"yea yea take this d*** mama i know"
Sep 3, 2023·1 replyHorrible top 5 list regardless of your generation
I like Juice and even other emo rappers like peep for instance but how tf do they deserve to be considered the best at what they do? They were big for their time but even then, a lot of people would say artists like Kendrick or Cole would deserve a spot in one of these lists way more
Man idk. I do agree with that one poster who said it helps if you mix in some hot take typa picks with some more agreeable ones. Like you can throw in a white rapper if the rest is black rappers but the reverse would be crazy lol
- Sep 3, 2023VAGABOND02
Horrible top 5 list regardless of your generation
I like Juice and even other emo rappers like peep for instance but how tf do they deserve to be considered the best at what they do? They were big for their time but even then, a lot of people would say artists like Kendrick or Cole would deserve a spot in one of these lists way more
Man idk. I do agree with that one poster who said it helps if you mix in some hot take typa picks with some more agreeable ones. Like you can throw in a white rapper if the rest is black rappers but the reverse would be crazy lol
Top 5:
Eminem
Macklemore
NF
Hopsin
Russ 
Sep 3, 2023·1 replyusername not foundI truly feel that although his music was cool that if he kept going and was still around today he wouldn’t have the same type of legacy he does now.
Tons of artists have charisma and story telling. You say he would have continued to make great albums but we don’t know that. The fact he was only able to put out 2 is tied in what I’m talking about
It creates this illusion that he couldn’t have ever failed and would have kept on the same trajectory for the span of his career which history shows is not ever the case.
"tons of artists have charisma and storytelling"
Not on Biggie's level
Releasing comparative mid over the course of a long career doesn't make someone more legendary than an artist with two classics and no duds. There are only a handful of rappers with better albums than Ready to Die.
- Sep 3, 2023
Great list Lil Tjay is great
Sep 3, 2023It's cold let me get my dior dior jacket
nah bro all girls are the same!
Sep 3, 2023When you walk past an NPC in GTA and they blurt out their top 5
Sep 3, 2023·editedusername not foundYou know what Juice wrld and Xs death taught me?
That 2pac and Biggie were overrated
When I was a kid those 2 were talked about as the best ever and I thought oh well damn it’s really tragic they both died young then
But no. They’re viewed the way they are because they died
Explaining why zoomers now hold juice and x up so high
You can’t ever fall off and they can’t ever grow tired of you if you die first.
Rip to them all though not meant to be insensitive just an observation
I hate this stupid f***ing argument. Biggie and Pac were a lot of peoples favourite and released one of the best /iconic hip hop albums oat before they died that wasn‘t the same with Pop Smoke, Nipsey etc. And both of them are actually one if not the best rappers oat stop it
- Sep 3, 2023soapmanwun
you say that like Dr Dre, Jay-Z, Snoop, Andre, Cube etc aren't still in most people's top 5s despite only having a few legendary albums
- Sep 3, 2023Noir
"tons of artists have charisma and storytelling"
Not on Biggie's level
Releasing comparative mid over the course of a long career doesn't make someone more legendary than an artist with two classics and no duds. There are only a handful of rappers with better albums than Ready to Die.
This. every single sentence is a fact.
Tubig 🌊Sep 3, 2023username not foundYou know what Juice wrld and Xs death taught me?
That 2pac and Biggie were overrated
When I was a kid those 2 were talked about as the best ever and I thought oh well damn it’s really tragic they both died young then
But no. They’re viewed the way they are because they died
Explaining why zoomers now hold juice and x up so high
You can’t ever fall off and they can’t ever grow tired of you if you die first.
Rip to them all though not meant to be insensitive just an observation
Yeah this is wrong but I don’t feel like addressing it. Just know it’s wrong.
- Sep 3, 2023·edited
If you're a kid and are just getting into rap I can see why you would hold Juice and Pop Smoke in such high regard. The latter is def a legend in his own right and I'm not mad at anyone feeling that way about the former (I respectfully never really listened to Juice like that).
Absolutely no idea where X and Tjay are coming from lmao
And Pac is the GOAT
- Sep 3, 2023
tunemoonOP was on a train with a bunch of 5th graders
Chaperone on a field trip
- Sep 3, 2023username not found
You know what Juice wrld and Xs death taught me?
That 2pac and Biggie were overrated
When I was a kid those 2 were talked about as the best ever and I thought oh well damn it’s really tragic they both died young then
But no. They’re viewed the way they are because they died
Explaining why zoomers now hold juice and x up so high
You can’t ever fall off and they can’t ever grow tired of you if you die first.
Rip to them all though not meant to be insensitive just an observation
Tbh, I'm not a gigantic fan of Biggie per se, but Pac was not overrated tbh
- Sep 3, 2023slimreapercantrap
simple.
2pac = legacy pick. he's de fecto best of all time. think johnny montana
Pop Smoke, X, Juice WRLD = when an artist dies young, they are catapulted into legend status. these three are just the most famous rappers to have died young within this kid's life (I'm assuming this was a teen or 20-something).
after he's gotten the obligatory out of the way, he gets to include his personal favorite, which i guess is lil tjay.
basically, kid wants to praise lil tjay, but he cant just call him the goat, first he has to be respectful and acknowledge who ur supposed to acknowledge yk? he's simply trying to follow the rules. it's just that the rules for the casual, uninformed, and young hip-hop fan are different than the rules you are used to
To be fair, Pop Smoke was legendary even before he passed. His influence on drill, both Meet the Woo tapes, and the impact he had on the culture with bringing a style of music from a different country into mainstream America is pretty damn significant
Sep 3, 2023·1 reply
EliminationofDrakeTrue for Biggie but 2Pac is indisputably a legend. The literal embodiment of hip-hop.
that’s crazy because Biggie was a way better rapper than Tupac was by a country mile lmao
Tupac is just way more iconic and influential so he gets the nod
Sep 3, 2023Damn, that's my top 5 too
- Sep 3, 2023saint dot edumist
that’s crazy because Biggie was a way better rapper than Tupac was by a country mile lmao
Tupac is just way more iconic and influential so he gets the nod
Biggie was a better technical rapper but Pac's technical skills are downplayed tbh
The alliteration here is crazy
- Sep 3, 2023·1 reply
Me Against the World>Ready to Die
