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  • Apr 11, 2022
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    RIP_Actavis

    Outside of this thread, the vast majority of people born between 1996-2006 will forever remember Travis as the guy who let those kids die in front of him at his festival as he continued to perform, and then proceeded to never publicly apologise for it, instead resorting to PR tactics to brush it aside as quickly as possible in order to revive his brand.

    I wasnā€™t seeking validation. There is genuine moral and ethical debate here. We are barely 6 months from the tragedy and heā€™s already started to rollout his new album. Itā€™s insanely callous and insensitive.

    Stop defending millionaires online just because you want to consume their next product, theyā€™d step over you if you were dying on the street

    He literally cannot apologize for it are you 5 years old or just super ignorant?

  • Apr 11, 2022

    Also Iā€™m defending the millionaire because your stance is dumb not because I want the product. But I do very much want the product

  • Apr 11, 2022
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    RIP_Actavis

    Outside of this thread, the vast majority of people born between 1996-2006 will forever remember Travis as the guy who let those kids die in front of him at his festival as he continued to perform, and then proceeded to never publicly apologise for it, instead resorting to PR tactics to brush it aside as quickly as possible in order to revive his brand.

    I wasnā€™t seeking validation. There is genuine moral and ethical debate here. We are barely 6 months from the tragedy and heā€™s already started to rollout his new album. Itā€™s insanely callous and insensitive.

    Stop defending millionaires online just because you want to consume their next product, theyā€™d step over you if you were dying on the street

    No offence brother Iā€™m an Uzi fan myself but after it came out that Uzi indeed abused his ex (actual intended harm inflicted) you went straight back to hyping him and his new music up as youā€™re allowed to since this is just about music not the human you canā€™t be talking about moral debates f*** those tiktok kids everyone with a brain knows whoā€™s really responsible he can start his rollout whenever he wants

  • Apr 11, 2022
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    WBW

    He literally cannot apologize for it are you 5 years old or just super ignorant?

    Hilarious that you are insinuating Iā€™m ignorant

    ā€œHe literally cannot apologiseā€

    Yes he can. He can say sorry. He can speak. He can say sorry and still not then be held legally accountable for what happened.

    He isnā€™t guilty of anything, and deserves no direct legal repercussions.

    But he can still handle the situation with sensitivity, and mature and respect. Rather than rushing to keep his brand afloat by dropping a new album.

  • Apr 11, 2022
    RIP_Actavis

    Hilarious that you are insinuating Iā€™m ignorant

    ā€œHe literally cannot apologiseā€

    Yes he can. He can say sorry. He can speak. He can say sorry and still not then be held legally accountable for what happened.

    He isnā€™t guilty of anything, and deserves no direct legal repercussions.

    But he can still handle the situation with sensitivity, and mature and respect. Rather than rushing to keep his brand afloat by dropping a new album.

    Saying sorry IS claiming legal accountability lmao. Heā€™s not guilty. Hence why he never said sorry. He also reached out to the families in more than one way and gave them space if they needed it. He has a dedicated line they can reach out to for help and he launched an entire psychiatric campaign. Heā€™s also active in helping better the festival scene so things like this donā€™t happen again even tho like we all agree on, it wasnā€™t his fault.

    Youā€™re clearly super misinformed or just a pure hater but he owes you not a lick of a thing and I donā€™t see why he should have to end his career or take a multi year hiatus when heā€™s done everything in his power already to rectify the situation even tho it wasnā€™t his fault. Donā€™t buy the album. Donā€™t stream the album. The kids not coming back to life and he seems more than willing to help the families financially and through therapy if needed

  • Apr 11, 2022

    But yeah man youā€™re definitely NOT saying all this to virtue signal.

  • americana šŸ·
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    Apr 11, 2022
    RIP_Actavis

    Outside of this thread, the vast majority of people born between 1996-2006 will forever remember Travis as the guy who let those kids die in front of him at his festival as he continued to perform, and then proceeded to never publicly apologise for it, instead resorting to PR tactics to brush it aside as quickly as possible in order to revive his brand.

    I wasnā€™t seeking validation. There is genuine moral and ethical debate here. We are barely 6 months from the tragedy and heā€™s already started to rollout his new album. Itā€™s insanely callous and insensitive.

    Stop defending millionaires online just because you want to consume their next product, theyā€™d step over you if you were dying on the street

    The narrative is literally not that anymore

  • americana šŸ·
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    Apr 11, 2022

    Like nobody whoā€™s paid any attention to what happened is putting it on Travis and that discourse only spread more and more as time went on

  • Apr 11, 2022
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    Yayo

    No offence brother Iā€™m an Uzi fan myself but after it came out that Uzi indeed abused his ex (actual intended harm inflicted) you went straight back to hyping him and his new music up as youā€™re allowed to since this is just about music not the human you canā€™t be talking about moral debates f*** those tiktok kids everyone with a brain knows whoā€™s really responsible he can start his rollout whenever he wants

    Youā€™re absolutely right,

    These guys are s***ty people, most people are. Being part of stan-culture you end up doing a lot of mental gymnastics to justify what they do despite how shady it is.

    My initial post itt was pretty even-handed though. Iā€™m also very excited about the music. For me, it all just feels too soon. I think I was poking at pretty valid moral questions that exist surrounding him starting his rollout.

    Anyway, I wonā€™t start it up again and derail the thread. As you can remember I was a regular in the old Utopia thread me you n spoke a lot

  • Apr 11, 2022

    Utopia coming soon

    Still gonna do numbers too

  • Apr 11, 2022
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    Haven't his streaming numbers stayed consistent through this whole thing? If so he's finna drop STAT

  • americana šŸ·
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    Apr 11, 2022
    ThaDon

    Haven't his streaming numbers stayed consistent through this whole thing? If so he's finna drop STAT

    Yep

  • Apr 11, 2022
    ThaDon

    Haven't his streaming numbers stayed consistent through this whole thing? If so he's finna drop STAT

    They spiked like they would after the level of press he got that week

  • Apr 11, 2022
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    abc13.com/travis-scott-astroworld-tragedy-festival-civil-lawsuit/11686041/#:~:text=More%20than%20four%20months%20have,consolidated%20into%20one%20civil%20case.

    Court case is still being handled and have gone to a judge already. Guess Travis thinks the court case is too long to wait for the album to drop.

    But it still feels like he's would have dropped in Feb if the festival s*** didn't happen.

    So is this delay just by a few months?

  • Apr 11, 2022
    RIP_Actavis

    Youā€™re absolutely right,

    These guys are s***ty people, most people are. Being part of stan-culture you end up doing a lot of mental gymnastics to justify what they do despite how shady it is.

    My initial post itt was pretty even-handed though. Iā€™m also very excited about the music. For me, it all just feels too soon. I think I was poking at pretty valid moral questions that exist surrounding him starting his rollout.

    Anyway, I wonā€™t start it up again and derail the thread. As you can remember I was a regular in the old Utopia thread me you n spoke a lot

    Absolutely brother I know youre not here to derail of course in the end we all have our perspectives

  • Apr 11, 2022
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    ragedsycokiller

    https://abc13.com/travis-scott-astroworld-tragedy-festival-civil-lawsuit/11686041/#:~:text=More%20than%20four%20months%20have,consolidated%20into%20one%20civil%20case.

    Court case is still being handled and have gone to a judge already. Guess Travis thinks the court case is too long to wait for the album to drop.

    But it still feels like he's would have dropped in Feb if the festival s*** didn't happen.

    So is this delay just by a few months?

    m.hitsdailydouble.com/news&id=329048&title=TRAVIS%3A-WHAT-NOW%3F

    ā€œAs for Scott, what happens from here is a big question. It's believed his new record is done; it was hitherto expected to drop next year ahead of his scheduled Coachella appearance.ā€

    Seems like an April release was in the works since last year, just ahead of Coachella. So if it does actually come out in the next few weeks, it seems like they are sticking with the plan

  • RIP_Actavis

    https://m.hitsdailydouble.com/news&id=329048&title=TRAVIS%3A-WHAT-NOW%3F

    ā€œAs for Scott, what happens from here is a big question. It's believed his new record is done; it was hitherto expected to drop next year ahead of his scheduled Coachella appearance.ā€

    Seems like an April release was in the works since last year, just ahead of Coachella. So if it does actually come out in the next few weeks, it seems like they are sticking with the plan

    Yeah so basically, just don't show face until the album and you'll be good Trav

    Which isn't a bad thing to do. He didn't keep moving on like nothing happened.

  • Apr 12, 2022
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    Lowkey convinced most of KTT will love the album now that he's the "underdog" again lol

  • americana šŸ·
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    Apr 12, 2022
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    CuzzoP

    Lowkey convinced most of KTT will love the album now that he's the "underdog" again lol

    Tbh this album seems like it has a very different process from the others

  • Apr 12, 2022
    americana

    Tbh this album seems like it has a very different process from the others

    aoty incoming

  • Apr 12, 2022
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    Iā€™m not complaining but yes I also feel like itā€™s too soon and will cause a s***storm on social media

  • Apr 12, 2022

    my goat

  • Apr 12, 2022

    I can't wait Trav the hype is real

  • Apr 12, 2022
    Maximus

    Iā€™m not complaining but yes I also feel like itā€™s too soon and will cause a s***storm on social media

    social media will complain no matter what