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  • Nov 6, 2019
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    Uhoh

    Yeezus and tlop def most conceptual

    Then jik/ye/ ksg

    Mbdtf aswell but does it in a diff way

    Nothing about TLOP is conceptual to me it’s just a super fun album with incredible replay value. It’s super mainstream like Graduation but with a modern soundscape. I guess if I had to describe it I’d say it’s a celebration type album but nothing more or less to me

  • Nov 6, 2019
    DriveSlow

    Even if you don't like the album, this is not debatable.

    This man gave us an album laced with themes of struggle and duality and delivered on that high concept on every level of the album. From the cover "WHICH // ONE" to the tracklisting (Low Lights, High lights - Famous, Feedback - Pt 1, pt 2) to even the down to how each song is composed and progresses (bleached a****** after heavenly sample). And did all this while delivering some of his most personal and vulnerable lyrics yet

    He even gave us his greatest high concept video ever in Famous. Where he's literally deconstructing the idea of 'fame' and how the media and the public intrudes on famous peoples' lives in their most vulnerable moments - PLUS the references to the s***tape aesthetic PLUS an almost prophetic cameo from "trump" PLUS a commentary on how famous peoples' likeness aren't even their own (he got no permission for anyone's body doubles, "I dare you to sue me", they're all public figures so their likeness can be replicated parodied and remixed).

    Not even to mention the whole updating the album in real time thing - Kanye really took 3 years after Yeezus and crafted the best fusion between high art and mainstream pop culture since MBDTF and y'all DID NOT appreciate it

    very good thread

  • Nov 6, 2019
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    Loco6520

    Nothing about TLOP is conceptual to me it’s just a super fun album with incredible replay value. It’s super mainstream like Graduation but with a modern soundscape. I guess if I had to describe it I’d say it’s a celebration type album but nothing more or less to me

    Respectfully, if thats all you get from it you are listening very passively

  • Nov 6, 2019
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    Uhoh

    Respectfully, if thats all you get from it you are listening very passively

    I believe I took that era for granted. Idk if it was bc of all the negative feedback from ktt at the time but the more I think about it now conceptually I see more than just a fun album. I’m gonna sit down & give it a true visualization next time I play it bc it most definitely deserves it I mean that album is so incredible & beautiful

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    Loco6520

    I believe I took that era for granted. Idk if it was bc of all the negative feedback from ktt at the time but the more I think about it now conceptually I see more than just a fun album. I’m gonna sit down & give it a true visualization next time I play it bc it most definitely deserves it I mean that album is so incredible & beautiful

    Just try and listen to each trach as part of a larger story taking in tbe context what came before and after and u will see more

    Also everythin afyer wolves is bonus

  • Nov 6, 2019
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    Album has so many good songs Ye didn’t even have any spots left to put All Day or Only One on it

  • Nov 6, 2019

    If this album has a concept then every album recorded does to be real

  • Nov 6, 2019
    ithaka

    Album has so many good songs Ye didn’t even have any spots left to put All Day or Only One on it

    2 of the best songs from the era

  • Nov 6, 2019
    Uhoh

    Just try and listen to each trach as part of a larger story taking in tbe context what came before and after and u will see more

    Also everythin afyer wolves is bonus

    Yeah you’re right, there’s definitely some cohesiveness to this project but I’ll indulge everything as much as I can all the way down to the artwork to receive the conceptualism of it

  • Nov 6, 2019
    Uhoh

    Post thread again on this website g

    Im planning to :)

  • Nov 6, 2019

    nah

  • Nov 7, 2019
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    GrandmaYe

    yeezus did everything tlop tried to do but 10x better so ...no

    they didn't even try to do the same things imo yeezus is a character, a facade and tlop is him revealing so much more of the real, even if to a fault

    but even so - take for example the new slaves projections. very cool, and i loved it but what purpose beyond aesthetics did it really serve? you could make allusions to 'big brother'/'new slaves' but there's not as much there to unpack like there is in the famous video for example

  • Nov 7, 2019
    rwina sawayama

    brine remember when people hated tlop

    loved since day 1

    i knew it was something special when it dropped

  • Nov 19, 2019

    does anyone know what's the font used on the Pablo cover?

  • Nov 19, 2019

    Bottom 3 Kanye & MBDTF concept was executed better

  • Nov 19, 2019
    DriveSlow

    Even if you don't like the album, this is not debatable.

    This man gave us an album laced with themes of struggle and duality and delivered on that high concept on every level of the album. From the cover "WHICH // ONE" to the tracklisting (Low Lights, High lights - Famous, Feedback - Pt 1, pt 2) to even the down to how each song is composed and progresses (bleached a****** after heavenly sample). And did all this while delivering some of his most personal and vulnerable lyrics yet

    He even gave us his greatest high concept video ever in Famous. Where he's literally deconstructing the idea of 'fame' and how the media and the public intrudes on famous peoples' lives in their most vulnerable moments - PLUS the references to the s***tape aesthetic PLUS an almost prophetic cameo from "trump" PLUS a commentary on how famous peoples' likeness aren't even their own (he got no permission for anyone's body doubles, "I dare you to sue me", they're all public figures so their likeness can be replicated parodied and remixed).

    Not even to mention the whole updating the album in real time thing - Kanye really took 3 years after Yeezus and crafted the best fusion between high art and mainstream pop culture since MBDTF and y'all DID NOT appreciate it

    s*** is literally his closest thing to a cinema as sound, and y’all were mad because “bleached a******s”