S*** was good for a little but they under pay

I have joined the team

@goodkid_maadposter

How is/was it for you?

It’s alright but I haven’t done it in a month. I like listening to podcasts and what not so it’s relaxing for the most part

Anyone in Seattle?

Edit: TL;DR Orders that are unassigned many times in a row go up in pay quickly, to $30+. The algo subsidizes low tip orders with high paying orders to get low tip orders delivered (we've all seen this). Uber is pairing orders that have inflated pay from being unassigned multiple times with low tip, high mileage orders to get them delivered. You never get the inflated pay since you will likely need to unassign it as well. Boom, you get tricked into delivering said s***ty order since it was the first pick up in the stack. Whether these inflated orders are real or not, or whether this is intentional, is almost impossible to prove.

Original post:

I've figured out how uber gets its no tip orders that are 15+ miles away delivered, and it's not just by stacking with other high tip orders, it's worse.

I've been doing this full time for about a year now, and have had a lot of time to figure out how orders are assigned. Most of it is known, but there's a dirty trick I think all drivers should know about but don't see talked about at all.

Most drivers know that high tip orders are stacked with low tip orders on both UE and DD to subsidize the s***ty tipper and get their food to them. This isn't that.

A lot of drivers have seen super high paying orders for 30, 35 or 40 that are relatively low mileage but when they get there it has been picked up already (stolen by another driver). This also isn't that.

This is a combination of a few of these different subsidizing tricks combined in a way that is a literal scam to the driver. Let me explain.

Customer 1 orders anything at all, lets say for this example McDonald's. Tip/overall pay doesn't matter. Location of the restaurant is key here.

Customer 2 orders something from Taco Bell, but tips $1. The total distance from the store to their house is say 15 miles. An order nobody would take unless tricked into it.

Importantly, they are relatively close to the restaurant customer 1 ordered from, and YOU are relatively close to the taco bell.

Now you get a stacked order. The pay is $40 for just over 15 miles. Seems like a not terrible order, especially if that'll be one of your last orders for the night. You accept it.

You drive to the taco bell since it's the first pick up in the stack, and pick up the order. You then drive another 14 or so miles to the McDonald's, but they are closed. Or the orders been picked up. Or the McDonald's has no record of the order. Regardless of the reason, you can't pick up the McDonald's order.

What you didn't know is that you'll be the 3rd driver to try to pick up this McDonald's order. The uber algorithm knows this, but keeps sending drivers anyways. Every time a new driver is sent, another $5 is added to the order.

Since you're already nearby, you go ahead and deliver the taco bell order and cancel the McDonald's order.

Here's the dirty part. The algorithm inflated the price of this mcdonalds order to $37 SPECIFICALLY to pair it with s***ty no tip orders, like the taco bell order you just drive 15 miles for and got paid $3 (plus another $3 if you take 20 minutes to argue with support into paying you for the canceled order) for.

That's the scam. These super high paying orders that multiple drivers show up at a store for, are being paired with low pay high mileage orders. THATS why they send so many drivers to for an order that's been reported as closed or already picked up, because every time it does, it inflates the pay for what is essentially a ghost order that will never be paid out. It can then be used to scam a driver into delivering a s***ty order.

Since you've already picked up the s***ty order, you have to complete it. There are a couple variations of this, but because you can't see the pay after half of the stacked order is canceled, it's a total gamble on if you will get fair pay or not. Even if you know this (like I do) it's still a total gamble unless you call both stores and confirm that both stores have the order you're assigned.

I know this is a long read but I think the drivers need to know about this.

this f***in lady took my order and saying she cant come up stairs do i have to wait for her to cancel the order so i can get my money back or what

and no before anyone ask i cant leave literally right now

Doesn't matter, I got a full refund plus 5 dollars for leaving 1 star review for her, that's the first time i had an issue like that with a doordash driver, i tip well and my apartment isn't hard to find.

This woman quite literally held on to my food for like 10 mins after i told her to cancel and it's fine if she was physically unable to deliver called me twice when i said i was at work.

Why the f*** you delivering food at all if you can't climb up one set of stairs? Usually i do meet people outside if they genuinely need help but this was ridiculous and I was at work expecting it to be delivered to my door as per usual.

I don't know if this woman loses the tip and her fare she would make but that was ridiculous.

I was a dog making $25/hr easy for years, 500+ 5 stars, 4.9 rating, and I got banned when a speeding ticket from one of those photo speed traps came up in a background check. For going 44 in a 35. My roommates are sketched out about the idea of me making a new account under their names and using a TextFree type app as my phone number. DD has repeatedly denied my appeals. Has anyone gotten their account back after this?