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  • Oct 26, 2020
    Maartins

    Neoliberalism is not for healthcare f***ing liar or mass transit wtf haha

    Every national health system in western countries were implemented by labour or social democrats

    Why are u jacking social democratic achievements fam

    Neoliberalism = center/center right

    Yeah when I read "for universal healthcare" I couldn't help but laugh

  • Oct 26, 2020
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    Bill Ackman

    You don’t know what neoliberalism is then.

    Who and what is a neoliberal

    Name US examples/parties as well as canadian, Australian and EU equivalents

    Im waiting

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    Maartins

    Who and what is a neoliberal

    Name US examples/parties as well as canadian, Australian and EU equivalents

    Im waiting

    Most self-proclaimed neoliberals are essentially pro-market social Democrats.

    Philosophically a proper academic answer would be a mix of classical liberalism, libertarianism, and social liberalism.

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    Bill Ackman

    Most self-proclaimed neoliberals are essentially pro-market social Democrats.

    Philosophically a proper academic answer would be a mix of classical liberalism, libertarianism, and social liberalism.

    This is not what i asked

    And there is nothing social democratic about biden and i hope to god yr not alluding that

    He’s akin to angela merkel, germany’s conservative pm and even she might be to his left economically on SOME things

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    Maartins

    This is not what i asked

    And there is nothing social democratic about biden and i hope to god yr not alluding that

    He’s akin to angela merkel, germany’s conservative pm and even she might be to his left economically on SOME things

    You’re an idiot. The US is very socially liberal compared to most countries. Stop this meme of “tHe Us iS EuRoPe’S rIghT” because it isn’t true. Biden’s platform would be considered fairly radical in many countries that still have not guaranteed rights for even women. There is plenty about Biden’s platform (most of it, actually) that is socially democratic.

  • Oct 26, 2020

    Just because other countries have universal healthcare, which again, neoliberals mostly agree should be a right, doesn’t magically make them further left than the US on ALL social issues. That is a ridiculous blanket statement that is absolutely false.

  • Oct 26, 2020

    Here is a great write-up that has plenty of references to support it. If you dismiss it because it is from Reddit, you’re admitting to trolling and unwilling to have a serious discussion based on any sort of factual a***ysis.

    reddit.com/r/neoliberal/comments/hjsk2l/the_democratic_party_being_center_right_in_europe/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

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    Bill Ackman

    You’re an idiot. The US is very socially liberal compared to most countries. Stop this meme of “tHe Us iS EuRoPe’S rIghT” because it isn’t true. Biden’s platform would be considered fairly radical in many countries that still have not guaranteed rights for even women. There is plenty about Biden’s platform (most of it, actually) that is socially democratic.

    No one mentioned that

    I actually have defended the US on that, u literally brought up a strawman cus u couldnt answer my question lmao

    Yes i agree the democratic party is extremely socially liberal, especially on race but u hv no idea in other countries how social issues are fam, yr clueless

    Other countries ALL their parties are all socially liberal on things like d****, abortion and lgbt rights.

    Here in Canada the current leader of the conservative party literally is pro choice!!! This is common in all western countries so wtf is yr point, Canada takes in the highest amount of immigrants per cap in the western world and that policy was put in place by a f***ing conservative lol. The only social issue the US(democrats i mean) outlefts most of the world on is race

    But now back to my original question name the social democratic economic policies biden supported on his own or would be radical else where? Give me a policy

    Bcus again being socially liberal isnt a unique aspect that makes someone social democratic or of the left, that’s just showing how Americanised yr are. Social liberalism is like a given in all liberal democracy parties in other western countries

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    Maartins

    No one mentioned that

    I actually have defended the US on that, u literally brought up a strawman cus u couldnt answer my question lmao

    Yes i agree the democratic party is extremely socially liberal, especially on race but u hv no idea in other countries how social issues are fam, yr clueless

    Other countries ALL their parties are all socially liberal on things like d****, abortion and lgbt rights.

    Here in Canada the current leader of the conservative party literally is pro choice!!! This is common in all western countries so wtf is yr point, Canada takes in the highest amount of immigrants per cap in the western world and that policy was put in place by a f***ing conservative lol. The only social issue the US(democrats i mean) outlefts most of the world on is race

    But now back to my original question name the social democratic economic policies biden supported on his own or would be radical else where? Give me a policy

    Bcus again being socially liberal isnt a unique aspect that makes someone social democratic or of the left, that’s just showing how Americanised yr are. Social liberalism is like a given in all liberal democracy parties in other western countries

    This is a waste of my time. I’m going to write up plenty of Biden’s policies for you in the morning which I can already tell you’re going to shoot down with “he won’t actually do that” because it’s what grifters like you do.

    Let me ask you; what do you think Biden’s platform is? Because you answering this will give me the safety net of you turning it into a bad faith grifting match where you simply say “he’s lying” to anything and everything he’s proposed.

    It is a fact that Biden’s platform is the most progressive to ever be on the ticket for president in the US.

  • Oct 26, 2020
    Bill Ackman

    This is a waste of my time. I’m going to write up plenty of Biden’s policies for you in the morning which I can already tell you’re going to shoot down with “he won’t actually do that” because it’s what grifters like you do.

    Let me ask you; what do you think Biden’s platform is? Because you answering this will give me the safety net of you turning it into a bad faith grifting match where you simply say “he’s lying” to anything and everything he’s proposed.

    It is a fact that Biden’s platform is the most progressive to ever be on the ticket for president in the US.

    Harry truman, lbj and jfk had more progressive platforms

    Most democrat candidates in the 60s and 70s supported single payer

    Obviously fdr goes without saying

    But that’s useless, u cant compare retroactively so it’s mute

    We can only compare his platform his democrat peers and other westerm countries lesders

  • Oct 26, 2020
    Bill Ackman

    This is completely misleading and dishonest if we’re being real. The cages were built because it was supposed to be a quick, temporary solution to an uncontrollable amount of people coming into the country during a stretch in 2014. Don’t even try and play this stupid ass narrative because it’s in bad faith

    so it’s okay because they put humans in cages for just a couple days? lol

  • Oct 26, 2020

    ayo at first i was joking but now i KNOW for fact OP is white

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    if you’re reading this and you’re on the fence about biden or trump, DO NOT let these people guilt you into choosing based off of name recognition or political affiliation. do your own research and if neither appeal to you, look at other options.

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    OP making it obvious he's just another bad gimmick account. ain't no way anyone should be defending Biden this much. Even people in his support base not falling for some of the excuses OP is spewing

  • Oct 26, 2020
    krishna bound

    Sleep tight, Pizza

  • Bill Ackman

    You are openly saying you don’t give a f*** about human rights, women’s rights, the environment, people of color, LGBTQ rights, immigrants, or literally anything/anyone but yourself

    Lesser of two evils only applies when each side is evil. Nothing about Biden or his platform is “evil” and it would tremendously benefit hundreds of thousands if not millions of people from those groups I named above

    “VoTe ShAmInG DoEsnT WoRk” I don’t care what you have to say quite frankly, stupid & selfish people deserve to be shamed 😆🤣

    I've already voted for Biden but I don't hate the other side feel like s*** is way more nuanced than this.

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    Mods pls get rid of this shrill

  • Oct 26, 2020

    If you’re offended by my points, the thread is directed at you. The truth hurts sometimes

  • Oct 26, 2020
    VVV

    if you’re reading this and you’re on the fence about biden or trump, DO NOT let these people guilt you into choosing based off of name recognition or political affiliation. do your own research and if neither appeal to you, look at other options.

    I already stated earlier in the thread I don’t care for anyone’s vote at this point. Biden is going to win in a historical landslide. I’m just rightfully shaming those people who will be on the wrong side of history. Hopefully they can tell their kids some day how they voted for Howie Hawkins against one of the most important presidents in our lifetimes

  • Oct 26, 2020
    YANDHI

    OP making it obvious he's just another bad gimmick account. ain't no way anyone should be defending Biden this much. Even people in his support base not falling for some of the excuses OP is spewing

    Like what?!

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    soccerfanj

    Mods pls get rid of this shrill

    ? What did I do. This is an open discussion and you’re just mad I have a differing opinion than you?

  • Oct 26, 2020
    soccerfanj

    Mods pls get rid of this shrill

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    lmaoooo what is this gimmick @op

  • Oct 26, 2020
    soccerfanj

    Mods pls get rid of this shrill

  • Oct 26, 2020
    dadye

    lmaoooo what is this gimmick @op

    ?

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