The lack of focus on skill and more on aesthetics

Ushering in crowds of fans who do not care about the culture

A lack of respect for the older generations

Them constantly stealing from the underground

Them doing away with corner stone parts of rap culure

Have we ever seen a Travis Scott or Playboi Cari HOT97 freestyle

Even Drake took his lumps

i don't agree

What the f*** did you just say about 00CACTUS, bro?

Carti is saving hip hop.

As a huge Drake fan I honestly look at Travis as more pop than hiphop at this point but I do think he’s killin it

theres always room for different lanes of rap dont be dense

2 rappers who don't care about hip hop. Only thing they care about is the bag. I'd like to blame the consumers instead but I get ur point. It's insane how protected Carti is when it comes to criticism

Mainstream hip hop would be dead if there weren’t people like them keeping sounds fresh.

Travis and Carti haven’t changed the focus of diddly squat. The game been not focused on bars and done away with cornerstone aspects of rap

More carti than anything

Dude is a trash performer, rapper and all around artist. Suburban white boys basically bow to his shrine though so that means everyone should respect him lmao. Rap is a f***ing joke.

Tbf freestyles/ that specific kind of freestyle culture fell off sometime in the mid- late 10’s

Perhaps in part to what OP is tryna get at but in general just seems like no one cares about freestyles anymore

Have we ever seen a Travis Scott or Playboi Cari HOT97 freestyle

I see where this thread will be going

why do yall rely on only a handful of people to represent a genre. Go listen to mach hommy and boldy james and stfu

I think that for an art like music, aesthetics is more important than skill. Where skill in art seeks to impress you, aesthetics in art seek to make you feel something. Kind of like how it is with paintings

Sorry they do not abide by the 5 elements of hip hop

what do these 2 have in common besides that you've lumped them together to make another "rap bad now" post

Nah there are two other people who deserve the blame

They’re legends still but their influence has inspired a lot of ass

Whomst

also you pencilneck twink

dont make a travis x carti thread unless its bout sum s*** dropping

ass wrld and s***tie redd

it’s a very specific demographic that likes Travis & Carti

all of them are also Kanye fans