Sponge 🧽Jun 13, 2020·edited·2 replies
MelStay on topic
@S there you go since you asked
heres a source
The Trump administration on Friday finalized a rule that would remove nondiscrimination protections for LGBTQ people when it comes to health care and health insurance.
"HHS respects the dignity of every human being, and as we have shown in our response to the pandemic, we vigorously protect and enforce the civil rights of all to the fullest extent permitted by our laws as passed by Congress," said Roger Severino, who directs the Office for Civil Rights in the Department of Health and Human Services, in a written statement announcing that the HHS rule had become final. The rule is set to go into effect by mid-August.
(CAPPPPPPP)It is one of many rules and regulations put forward by the Trump administration that defines "sex discrimination" as only applying when someone faces discrimination for being male or female, and does not protect people from discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation or gender identity.
Supporters of the new rule said this is a necessary reversal of Obama-era executive overreach and will reduce confusion about the legal meaning of "sex discrimination." Critics argue the rule could further harm an already vulnerable group — transgender people — in the midst of a pandemic and historic unrest spurred by the killing of George Floyd at the hands of police in Minneapolis.
- OPJun 13, 2020·1 replySponge· edited
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/06/12/868073068/transgender-health-protections-reversed-by-trump-administration
heres a source
The Trump administration on Friday finalized a rule that would remove nondiscrimination protections for LGBTQ people when it comes to health care and health insurance.
"HHS respects the dignity of every human being, and as we have shown in our response to the pandemic, we vigorously protect and enforce the civil rights of all to the fullest extent permitted by our laws as passed by Congress," said Roger Severino, who directs the Office for Civil Rights in the Department of Health and Human Services, in a written statement announcing that the HHS rule had become final. The rule is set to go into effect by mid-August.
(CAPPPPPPP)It is one of many rules and regulations put forward by the Trump administration that defines "sex discrimination" as only applying when someone faces discrimination for being male or female, and does not protect people from discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation or gender identity.
Supporters of the new rule said this is a necessary reversal of Obama-era executive overreach and will reduce confusion about the legal meaning of "sex discrimination." Critics argue the rule could further harm an already vulnerable group — transgender people — in the midst of a pandemic and historic unrest spurred by the killing of George Floyd at the hands of police in Minneapolis.
How do you do that with text
- Sponge 🧽Jun 13, 2020·1 replyMel
How do you do that with text
the > key starts a quote
then _ a bunch of those draws a line
d stoner 🤬Jun 13, 2020·1 replyDo better CisTT
- OPJun 13, 2020Sponge
the > key starts a quote
then _ a bunch of those draws a line
So > no space?
Jun 13, 2020·1 reply“He also said the rule could save hospitals and insurers and others $2.9 billion over five years since they will be relieved of the requirement to print notices of nondiscrimination in several languages and include them with any "significant" mailings.”
- OPJun 13, 2020·1 replyd stoner
Do better CisTT
you know what f*** it it's right below OP anyway
- OPJun 13, 2020·2 repliesDZE
“He also said the rule could save hospitals and insurers and others $2.9 billion over five years since they will be relieved of the requirement to print notices of nondiscrimination in several languages and include them with any "significant" mailings.”
That quote is so some SNL sketch level stuff
frenchpress ❇️Jun 13, 2020can't even stay on topic in the 2nd thread
- d stoner 🤬Jun 13, 2020·1 replyMel
you know what f*** it it's right below OP anyway
Wat?
Im just s***ting on CisTT for getting the other thread locked
Jun 13, 2020·edited·1 replyKTT2 doing the transgender community dirty again.
- OPJun 13, 2020·1 replyd stoner
Wat?
Im just s***ting on CisTT for getting the other thread locked
I thought you were calling me that for not knowing how to embed text
- d stoner 🤬Jun 13, 2020Mel
I thought you were calling me that for not knowing how to embed text
- Sponge 🧽Jun 13, 2020·2 repliesSaturday· edited
KTT2 doing the transgender community dirty again.
meanwhile thats kinda an ignorant way to refer to transgender people
"transgenders"
u could say trans people or transgender people and it sounds better. or the trans community. or something
- Jun 13, 2020Mel
That quote is so some SNL sketch level stuff
It really is lol. I’m in disbelief that someone with actual influence really said this
- Jun 13, 2020·2 repliesSponge
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/06/12/868073068/transgender-health-protections-reversed-by-trump-administration
heres a source
The Trump administration on Friday finalized a rule that would remove nondiscrimination protections for LGBTQ people when it comes to health care and health insurance.
"HHS respects the dignity of every human being, and as we have shown in our response to the pandemic, we vigorously protect and enforce the civil rights of all to the fullest extent permitted by our laws as passed by Congress," said Roger Severino, who directs the Office for Civil Rights in the Department of Health and Human Services, in a written statement announcing that the HHS rule had become final. The rule is set to go into effect by mid-August.
(CAPPPPPPP)It is one of many rules and regulations put forward by the Trump administration that defines "sex discrimination" as only applying when someone faces discrimination for being male or female, and does not protect people from discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation or gender identity.
Supporters of the new rule said this is a necessary reversal of Obama-era executive overreach and will reduce confusion about the legal meaning of "sex discrimination." Critics argue the rule could further harm an already vulnerable group — transgender people — in the midst of a pandemic and historic unrest spurred by the killing of George Floyd at the hands of police in Minneapolis.
if it is true that the stipulation that Donald Trump changed, prevents transgender people from receiving healthcare, then that is morally wrong.
However, this stipulation was tied into abortion rights. A healthcare provider should not be forced to perform abortions. That's why I am ecstatic at Donald Trump's political move here.
From what I understand, this change will prevent health care insurers from being forced to cover Gender Confirmation Surgery. This surgery does not give a transgender person the sexual organ they desire. This surgery is a crude approximation of a natal sexual organ. Many insurers cover GCS regardless of this change.
I do not believe that this change that Donald Trump has made can in fact be used to deny trans people adequate healthcare.
Interestingly, NPR cites an example that a trans man with ovarian cancer could be denied treatment. While this may technically be the case, the reality that this stipulation would be used by a provider to deny treatment is farfetched. Also, when a natal female takes doses of testosterone, that can actually cause ovarian cancer. There are many health complications from natal women taking testosterone. It is not for the faint of heart. It is a total rewiring, crudely, of an endocrine system, to match an otherwise nonbioidentical body
- Jun 13, 2020·1 replySponge
meanwhile thats kinda an ignorant way to refer to transgender people
"transgenders"
u could say trans people or transgender people and it sounds better. or the trans community. or something
Thanks for the correction, man.
- OPJun 13, 2020·edited·1 replydiscman
if it is true that the stipulation that Donald Trump changed, prevents transgender people from receiving healthcare, then that is morally wrong.
However, this stipulation was tied into abortion rights. A healthcare provider should not be forced to perform abortions. That's why I am ecstatic at Donald Trump's political move here.
From what I understand, this change will prevent health care insurers from being forced to cover Gender Confirmation Surgery. This surgery does not give a transgender person the sexual organ they desire. This surgery is a crude approximation of a natal sexual organ. Many insurers cover GCS regardless of this change.
I do not believe that this change that Donald Trump has made can in fact be used to deny trans people adequate healthcare.
Interestingly, NPR cites an example that a trans man with ovarian cancer could be denied treatment. While this may technically be the case, the reality that this stipulation would be used by a provider to deny treatment is farfetched. Also, when a natal female takes doses of testosterone, that can actually cause ovarian cancer. There are many health complications from natal women taking testosterone. It is not for the faint of heart. It is a total rewiring, crudely, of an endocrine system, to match an otherwise nonbioidentical body
What do you mean healthcare provider should not be forced to perform abortions?
You mean the actual medical specialist? If you're working in a state where it's legal and a patient comes to you, it's your job/duty.
- Jun 13, 2020·1 replydiscman
if it is true that the stipulation that Donald Trump changed, prevents transgender people from receiving healthcare, then that is morally wrong.
However, this stipulation was tied into abortion rights. A healthcare provider should not be forced to perform abortions. That's why I am ecstatic at Donald Trump's political move here.
From what I understand, this change will prevent health care insurers from being forced to cover Gender Confirmation Surgery. This surgery does not give a transgender person the sexual organ they desire. This surgery is a crude approximation of a natal sexual organ. Many insurers cover GCS regardless of this change.
I do not believe that this change that Donald Trump has made can in fact be used to deny trans people adequate healthcare.
Interestingly, NPR cites an example that a trans man with ovarian cancer could be denied treatment. While this may technically be the case, the reality that this stipulation would be used by a provider to deny treatment is farfetched. Also, when a natal female takes doses of testosterone, that can actually cause ovarian cancer. There are many health complications from natal women taking testosterone. It is not for the faint of heart. It is a total rewiring, crudely, of an endocrine system, to match an otherwise nonbioidentical body
“Under the new rule, a transgender person could, for example, be refused care for a checkup at a doctor's office, said Lindsey Dawson, associate director of HIV policy at the Kaiser Family Foundation.“
Did you need not read this?
- Sponge 🧽Jun 13, 2020Saturday
Thanks for the correction, man.
np. just some ways can sound a little off, especially when its a sensitive subject for a lot of people
- Sponge 🧽Jun 13, 2020·1 reply
This mf said "I'm ecstatic at president trumps move here"
I feel sorry for people who know you in real life, discman
Jun 13, 2020MelThat quote is so some SNL sketch level stuff
- Jun 13, 2020·1 replyDZE
“Under the new rule, a transgender person could, for example, be refused care for a checkup at a doctor's office, said Lindsey Dawson, associate director of HIV policy at the Kaiser Family Foundation.“
Did you need not read this?
yes, I read that. but I don't believe that is true. while it could empower a doctor to refuse to treat a transgender person, a doctor could only refuse to treat nonbio-gender ailments. this would open the doctor up to litigation and be costly for the doctor.
it's a technicality that is interesting but doesn't make sense. a transgender person has a right to be treated according to their natal gender, according to the amendment Donald trump has made.
if this causes transgender ppl to die from not receiving adequate care I would be surprised but also upset.
- Jun 13, 2020Mel
What do you mean healthcare provider should not be forced to perform abortions?
You mean the actual medical specialist? If you're working in a state where it's legal and a patient comes to you, it's your job/duty.
a medical provider in my opinion should be allowed to refuse to perform abortion.