Dec 7, 2023
tweezyI don't think people on here really know how big Wayne was, it's not even comparable
C3 was a defining moment for the culture. Tyler is yet to release something even near that in terms of cultural impact
- Dec 7, 2023
Theory Talk Traderhe just copies wes anderson's aesthetic lol
he adds nothing new to it whatsoever
- Dec 7, 2023
SignedTwiceFeel like Tyler kinda been on the same s*** visually for a minute, I want him to really do something different for him with the next album era
Someone like Rocky has been beating Tyler with the videos for awhile imo
Dec 7, 2023
Skateboard JToeing the line between dope and corny imo (only talkin bout the visuals tho)
what does this even mean
- Dec 7, 2023
He f***s kids
Dec 7, 2023·1 reply
KeeMaybe it's not the same, but it's similar
i mean its totally different
think about how much DJ Dramas place in the culture has shifted
very dissimilar- Dec 7, 2023xnthr
i mean its totally different
think about how much DJ Dramas place in the culture has shifted
very dissimilarIt's not about DJ Drama's place on the culture.
It's about Tyler's evolution as an artist in the rap game and how we haven't seen an artist that improve on their craft each project.
The closest person I could've think of is Wayne. Maybe it wasn't the best choice, but that's what I thought about in the moment.
Obviously Wayne is different and came from a different cloth.
666 💢Dec 7, 2023i love the A BOY IS A GUN* visuals
Dec 7, 2023
glassrainbowLove almost all of those songs but IGOR to me is clearly the better record and one of those generational classic albums parents will hand down to their kids and etc
Obvious bait post
- Dec 7, 2023·1 replyglassrainbow
You’re taking one comment I made and blowing it out of proportion to mischaracterize my argument. You said that “even just on a music level” Wayne’s s*** is better. I said ain’t no f***in way. Lacks consistency and his artistry pales in comparison. Next comment
You’re one of these guys that puts “dominating the culture” above what is actually good. Lil Bow Wow can dominate the culture for a minute but will it stick around in a meaningful way is the question. And you must be blind deaf and dumb if you didn’t see how FLOWER BOY literally changed the way everyone dressed and the sound of music. It created an entire bedroom pop and soft aesthetic rap obsession we’re still seeing today. So many copies and imitators. It literally turned everyone gay!
you didn’t see how FLOWER BOY literally changed the way everyone dressed and the sound of music. It created an entire bedroom pop and soft aesthetic rap obsession we’re still seeing today. So many copies and imitators. It literally turned everyone gay!
You don’t gotta troll to defend your points
- Dec 7, 2023·edited
JeffersonSteelflexNever used the word hate but now you’re saying s*** like RYM which kind of proves my point about the resentment cause that’s a hasty generalization.
And if you want examples: Teezo Touchdown, Kevin Abstract, Paris Texas, Kenny Mason, Uzi, Yachty, etc
Kenny Mason’s ( best rapper out this list) own words his biggest influence is Lil Wayne.
Yall. Gotta. Stop. Lying.
- Dec 7, 2023
I know Tyler gotta hate his fanbase sometimes lmao
- Dec 7, 2023JeffersonSteelflex
I also think he makes better music than Wayne does currently and has a better discography since wayne has more trash than good.
Now what?
currently
Key word.
- Dec 7, 2023·1 reply
Free YoungBoyAlso the whole discography talk on here for rappers is so weird. No other genre are artists judged like athletes.
Waynes “misses” negate his great material?
No other genre are artists judged like athletes.
laughs in jazz
This is 🧢 sir.
- Dec 7, 2023·1 replyinsertcoolnamehere
No other genre are artists judged like athletes.
laughs in jazz
This is 🧢 sir.
Ok I’m interested. How are jazz artists treated like this? Not really tapped in like that
- Dec 7, 2023·1 replyFree YoungBoy
Ok I’m interested. How are jazz artists treated like this? Not really tapped in like that
There’s a sentiment by “jazz loyalists” (e.g. wynton marsalis/stanley crouche) that miles davis was making jazz Music until he “sold out” and started going pop post bitches brew and dismiss anything he made after that.
Shoutout to tv1 unsung shined a light on mad black artists of the 70s and 80s that had it worse, as soon as they had a streak of albums that wouldn’t have as much commercial success as their peak, their label would drop them completely.
Eminem, Wayne, etc. been allowed to drop dud after dud without fear of that lmfao.
- Dec 7, 2023insertcoolnamehere
you didn’t see how FLOWER BOY literally changed the way everyone dressed and the sound of music. It created an entire bedroom pop and soft aesthetic rap obsession we’re still seeing today. So many copies and imitators. It literally turned everyone gay!
You don’t gotta troll to defend your points
Hey me and mr. duffle already settled this s***
- Dec 7, 2023
Tyler definitely has influence
But tyler himself would say lil wayne got influence on him lol.
- Dec 7, 2023·1 replyinsertcoolnamehere
There’s a sentiment by “jazz loyalists” (e.g. wynton marsalis/stanley crouche) that miles davis was making jazz Music until he “sold out” and started going pop post bitches brew and dismiss anything he made after that.
Shoutout to tv1 unsung shined a light on mad black artists of the 70s and 80s that had it worse, as soon as they had a streak of albums that wouldn’t have as much commercial success as their peak, their label would drop them completely.
Eminem, Wayne, etc. been allowed to drop dud after dud without fear of that lmfao.
?? the miles selling out narrative begins in the 80s with Man With The Horn. he made many celebrated classics after BB including Jack Johnson, on the corner, big fun, get up with it, numerous live albums. BB was basically the beginning of the fusion era he's beloved for MOST by diehards
- Dec 7, 2023·1 replyglassrainbow
?? the miles selling out narrative begins in the 80s with Man With The Horn. he made many celebrated classics after BB including Jack Johnson, on the corner, big fun, get up with it, numerous live albums. BB was basically the beginning of the fusion era he's beloved for MOST by diehards
From wynton’s website himself.
Im not saying miles aint looked at as a legend (the same way wayne/em are looked at as legends)
I’m answering brodie original point that hip hop aint the only genre that judges recent output against a legend’s discography harshly.
- Dec 7, 2023·1 replyinsertcoolnamehere
From wynton’s website himself.
Im not saying miles aint looked at as a legend (the same way wayne/em are looked at as legends)
I’m answering brodie original point that hip hop aint the only genre that judges recent output against a legend’s discography harshly.
the excerpt you linked isn't talking about when Miles went pop they're talking about when he went fusion. he lost the purist crowd at the time because he was pushing the sound but that doesn't reflect the majority opinion now
- Dec 7, 2023glassrainbow
the excerpt you linked isn't talking about when Miles went pop they're talking about when he went fusion. he lost the purist crowd at the time because he was pushing the sound but that doesn't reflect the majority opinion now
But it did at one point.
Once again was just showing an example of another genre where niggas got judged like athletes.