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  • Jul 26, 2023
    Lou

    S*** was more believable before it was all over the mainstream news shows and in front of congress. that 60 minutes episode should've set off all the alarms

    lol

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    "They've killed people to keep this secret!" - guy given a live national television audience

  • Lou

    It’s so simple.

    It’s a cover up of America’s weapons program. Trillions of dollars have been devoted to this stuff and the result is unexplainable aerial activity that needs some sort of cover.

    And it’s not the main part, but all news is basically about how our institutions are crumbling, our economy is teetering, our ecology is teetering, none of the institutions are capable of dealing with it - hey, what if there’s an alien! They could have earth-saving new tech!

    Psychologically it’s of the same lofty fantasy as going to Mars or any other escape from the trap we’ve found ourselves in.

    so ur saying they accidentally broke the laws of physics and spawned a bunch of ufos..

    and this is believable to u?

  • Jul 26, 2023
    Yuzzy

    (i) Instantaneous acceleration absent apparent inertia: Newton's first law (the law of inertia) states that an object will remain at rest or in uniform motion in a straight line unless acted upon by an external force. Instantaneous acceleration would imply an incredibly high force. Such high acceleration without inertia is challenging to explain with our current understanding of physics, as it would require an immense energy source and potentially result in destructive forces for the object or beings inside. It also raises questions about how such forces could be transmitted without a reaction (third law).

    This is the crux of the matter, I think this is what all this is about, enormous energy without enormous effects. Could be nuclear

    (ii) Hypersonic velocity absent a thermal signature and sonic shockwave: High-speed travel through a medium like air usually results in a shockwave (sonic boom) and generates heat due to air friction. An object moving at hypersonic velocities without these effects seems to defy our understanding of fluid dynamics and thermodynamics.

    Not a law of physics

    (iii) Transmedium travel: UFOs have been reported to move seamlessly between different mediums like air, water, and potentially space. Our current technology requires different vehicles for each medium because of the different forces and principles at play, such as buoyancy in water versus lift in the air.

    Not a law of physics

    (iv) Positive lift contrary to known aerodynamic principles: Traditional flight requires a balance of forces, with lift overcoming weight. Objects that seem to hover or maneuver without visible means of propulsion or lift surfaces (like wings) defy our current understanding of aerodynamics.

    Not a law of physics

    (v) Multispectral signature control: This could refer to the ability to control the electromagnetic radiation an object emits or reflects across various wavelengths (visible light, infrared, radio waves, etc.). This could involve advanced stealth technologies or concepts beyond our current knowledge.

    Not a law of physics

    (vi) Physical or invasive biological effects to close observers and the environment: There have been reports of UFO encounters causing physical or biological effects, such as radiation sickness or interference with electrical equipment. These effects are not well understood and are often disputed.

    Not a law of physics

    Thanks brother you have proven a lot today

  • Jul 26, 2023
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    Lou

    "They've killed people to keep this secret!" - guy given a live national television audience

    What do the two have to do with each other lol

  • Jul 26, 2023
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    Yuzzy

    (i) Instantaneous acceleration absent apparent inertia: Newton's first law (the law of inertia) states that an object will remain at rest or in uniform motion in a straight line unless acted upon by an external force. Instantaneous acceleration would imply an incredibly high force. Such high acceleration without inertia is challenging to explain with our current understanding of physics, as it would require an immense energy source and potentially result in destructive forces for the object or beings inside. It also raises questions about how such forces could be transmitted without a reaction (third law).

    This is the crux of the matter, I think this is what all this is about, enormous energy without enormous effects. Could be nuclear

    (ii) Hypersonic velocity absent a thermal signature and sonic shockwave: High-speed travel through a medium like air usually results in a shockwave (sonic boom) and generates heat due to air friction. An object moving at hypersonic velocities without these effects seems to defy our understanding of fluid dynamics and thermodynamics.

    Not a law of physics

    (iii) Transmedium travel: UFOs have been reported to move seamlessly between different mediums like air, water, and potentially space. Our current technology requires different vehicles for each medium because of the different forces and principles at play, such as buoyancy in water versus lift in the air.

    Not a law of physics

    (iv) Positive lift contrary to known aerodynamic principles: Traditional flight requires a balance of forces, with lift overcoming weight. Objects that seem to hover or maneuver without visible means of propulsion or lift surfaces (like wings) defy our current understanding of aerodynamics.

    Not a law of physics

    (v) Multispectral signature control: This could refer to the ability to control the electromagnetic radiation an object emits or reflects across various wavelengths (visible light, infrared, radio waves, etc.). This could involve advanced stealth technologies or concepts beyond our current knowledge.

    Not a law of physics

    (vi) Physical or invasive biological effects to close observers and the environment: There have been reports of UFO encounters causing physical or biological effects, such as radiation sickness or interference with electrical equipment. These effects are not well understood and are often disputed.

    Not a law of physics

    this is some next level pedantic s*** lol

    and u even agree w the general point dude is making but u still wrote all this to call him out on a technicality 😭

  • Jul 26, 2023
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    @Yuzzy still hasn't responded to the fact UFOs have been seen since the late 1800s. Apparently he thinks we've just been chilling with unexplainably high tech vehicles since then and we had them on stand by during world war 1 and 2. How do you respond Yuzzy. I want to hear your genius explanation

  • Jul 26, 2023
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    slimreapercantrap

    this is some next level pedantic s*** lol

    and u even agree w the general point dude is making but u still wrote all this to call him out on a technicality 😭

    GPT 4 wrote most of it

  • Jul 26, 2023
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    Slutbear

    Omg can we get this Lou guy out of here. This mf must work for the government the way he keeps pushing this "it's all military vehicles" nonsense

    peep this

  • DrDreezy

    What do the two have to do with each other lol

    i don't think lou has considered that govt policy can change

  • Jul 26, 2023
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    slimreapercantrap

    this is some next level pedantic s*** lol

    and u even agree w the general point dude is making but u still wrote all this to call him out on a technicality 😭

    "Yes they are exhibiting characteristics maybe 50-100 years past what EVERYONE currently has

    BUT THOSE OTHER 4 ARE NOT LAWS OF PHYSICS

    haha gotcha"

  • Jul 26, 2023
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    DrDreezy

    but all news is basically about how our institutions are crumbling, our economy is teetering, our ecology is teetering, none of the institutions are capable of dealing with it - hey, what if there’s an alien! They could have earth-saving new tech!

    Nobody today ever said anything about aliens are going to save earth man

    This is all being framed in a national security perspective

    Lol. Great framing to get those appropriations. Total success

  • Jul 26, 2023
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    Yuzzy

    Everything is politics

    Yes the problem with society is that we’re convinced everything is political

  • Jul 26, 2023
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    Slutbear

    @Yuzzy still hasn't responded to the fact UFOs have been seen since the late 1800s. Apparently he thinks we've just been chilling with unexplainably high tech vehicles since then and we had them on stand by during world war 1 and 2. How do you respond Yuzzy. I want to hear your genius explanation

    I don't have an explanation that and earlier sightings such as in antiquity, 1500s 1600s 1700s are the best evidence for extraterrestrial origin

  • Jul 26, 2023
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    Lou

    Lol. Great framing to get those appropriations. Total success

    Are you saying congress is doing all this to give more money to defense contractors?????

  • Jul 26, 2023
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    Why is this grusch guy leaving out a lot of the details?

    Like why does he say he can’t say it public

  • Jul 26, 2023
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    DrDreezy

    What do the two have to do with each other lol

    I feel like if you are going to buy in to the proposition that U.S. government has a strong vested interest in keeping this secret to the point that they have killed ppl, silenced ppl, etc. you would have to be skeptical of the fact that the seemingly decided to not do those things with this guy and rather let him have a national audience. What makes him different from the others that were allegedly silenced.

  • Yuzzy

    GPT 4 wrote most of it

    u r doing the most 😭

  • Jul 26, 2023
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    lnstinct

    Why is this grusch guy leaving out a lot of the details?

    Like why does he say he can’t say it public

    Whistleblower laws

    He cant say anything that is classified or he will go straight to jail

  • Jul 26, 2023
    DrDreezy

    "Yes they are exhibiting characteristics maybe 50-100 years past what EVERYONE currently has

    BUT THOSE OTHER 4 ARE NOT LAWS OF PHYSICS

    haha gotcha"

    50-100 years ahead of public sector is reasonable for the most advanced private group in the world

  • Jul 26, 2023
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    Slutbear

    @Yuzzy still hasn't responded to the fact UFOs have been seen since the late 1800s. Apparently he thinks we've just been chilling with unexplainably high tech vehicles since then and we had them on stand by during world war 1 and 2. How do you respond Yuzzy. I want to hear your genius explanation

    uh, prove it?

    Some dude writing in his journal 200 years ago that he saw some lights in the sky is not very convincing to any serious person. Be serious

  • Jul 26, 2023
    DrDreezy

    Whistleblower laws

    He cant say anything that is classified or he will go straight to jail

    Ah ok thanks

    Will this stuff ever come out publicly then?

  • Jul 26, 2023
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    MUNCH KHING

    Yes the problem with society is that we’re convinced everything is political

    Society has much bigger problems

  • Jul 26, 2023

    I dont know whats real anymore

  • Jul 26, 2023

    Ultimately with the amount of misdirection and spooks that have been part of this conversation for decades on end it is going to take a lot to convince ppl that this isn't just more of the same. Hopefully the evidence comes out if it exists.