KimJongUn

5y

thats not the same thing as launching a counterattack. the US fully intended to stay out if the nazis conquered the USSR. declaration of war was a formality.

Enpax

5y

The US was providing aid to the Soviet Union during the ww2 even before they got involved. If the nazis did conquer the soviets, they would have gone after the Americans next. Hitler listed America as an enemy after the soviets in both Mein Kampf and Zweites Buch

SlippingThruTheWar

5y

Dude everything is relevant to time. Do you understand that? I mean what was the illiteracy rate in america 120 years ago among women and african americans,,,

If you know anything about iran history and compare the growth %s per capita you will see that it was during the pahlavi particularly reza shah when the country took a big leap in regards to women rights and economically too.. roads were built, schools were built, rail roads .... and so on

If you had the slightest idea you would know that reza shah wasnt born into power and he took over the Qajar dynasty and saved the iranian people from literally starving because the country was mismanage by morons for so long.

It's been down hill ever since the islamic government took over. These idiots even banned contraceptive methods, pills, condoms during the Iraq Iran war because their dumb ass backward idealogy saw power in numbers and they wanted more islamic soldiers.... IdiOTs., didn't realise they don't have the infrastructure to support the extra population .. They are still paying for their dumb mistakes .... These people rocket down their own people in the sky --- and you are sitting here talking about literacy rates over half a century ago

SlippingThruTheWar

5y

They did have it coming.
No country should do business with a terrorist government.

The international assets of all top to middle level iranian officials in their government should be seized. It's all iranian blood money ..

Their networths are monumental, Trump's networth is pocket money to them. They've been robbing a very Rich country's resources for half a century.

People need to wake up. Just because Trump is a dumb f*** does not mean that they should side with Iran.

KimJongUn

5y

nobody was going to invade the US lol

Enpax

5y

“Gone after” doesn’t necessarily mean “invade” I mean they would have been enemies, and they were already enemies leading up to the war in the first place. This revisionist history that the west was cool with fascism because it was a defense against communism isn’t how it actually went down

KimJongUn

5y

it absolutely is history when you had mussolini on the payroll of william randolph hearst and you had henry ford telling his employees that hitler was a chill bro. the USA was absolutely fine with the rise of fascism so long as it got a piece of the pie. fascism was also on the rise in the US at the time with the return of the Ku Klux Klan and the involvement of several major capitalists with the Business Plot. fascism only failed to catch on in the US because unlike europe, it had to compete with settler colonialism for the same space in the political sphere.

Enpax

5y

Henry Ford and William Randolph Hearst were private citizens. There were prominent private citizens also sympathetic to the Soviet cause. If you wanna talk about governments forming alliances, how about the fact that Italy was one of the first countries to recognize the Soviet Union, and they had a pact stemming back to 1924. Obviously Italy and the soviets weren’t allies, just like how America and Nazi Germany weren’t allies

KimJongUn

5y

"governments" dont exist in a vacuum, theyre manifestations of class dictatorships. in the US' case in 1933, a loose alliance between the former slave-holding aristocracy of the south and the industrial capitalists of the north. the fact that these "private citizens" were even able to attempt a coup d'etat should illustrate where the levers of power exist.

Enpax

5y

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None of that disputes the point I made about Italy being the first western country to recognize the soviets, and having decent relations with them until they forgo them in favor of allying with the germans. It also doesn’t dispute the fact that Roosevelt had expressed hostility towards the nazis and hitler in turn did not like the American government. They weren’t collaborating on any meaningful level

KimJongUn

5y

the soviets having a non-aggression pact with italy is, how do you say, not the same thing. it was just a common sense move for the ussr to not be hostile.

KimJongUn

5y

who cares what mightve happened in the fantasy world where the iranian revolution was controlled by you, just deal with reality how it exists for a second

Enpax

5y

There’s not being hostile, and then there’s establishing trade partnerships. And it’s the fact that of all the countries to have such an agreement with, it was the fascists, who are supposed to be the exact opposite of fascists, instead of one of the liberal western democracies. I’m not using it as an example to criticize the Soviet Union, I’m using it to say that American businessmen liking nazis doesnt mean America in general was friendly towards the nazis

SlippingThruTheWar

5y

You are fooled by propaganda, you refuse to look past behind the fact ...

Yes literacy rates and in particular women literacy has improved a lot in the past 50 years ... but that's true for all developing countries across the globe. The islamic republic just happens to exist during this time. Why should they take any credit?

KimJongUn

5y

this is such a weird postmodern argument, where the mere advance of time means some increase in literacy with no political intervention on the behalf of the people. the reason literacy advanced so much after the revolution is because the revolution made literacy a priority. the reason literacy rates rose throughout the world was due to advances by the working class over the course of the 20th century in demanding literacy programs.

KimJongUn

5y

the US was far friendlier to the fascist countries than the USSR was, what are you even talking about

the partisan resistance to nazi occupation was aided by the soviet union, which is why communists were able to take control of the fascist puppet states. the soviet union offered to launch a pre-emptive attack on germany with the aid of the allies, which they rejected in favor of appeasement.

like idk what you think you know but its not actual history.

LXS

5y

We been knew

LXS

5y

wAiT foR cOnfiRmatjoN

LXS

5y

wAiT foR cOnfiRmatjoN

SlippingThruTheWar

5y

Iran's military should be proud.. One of the dozen missiles hit the target!

LXS

5y

wAiT foR cOnfiRmatjoN

goonicide bomber

5y

S/o the people who said it wasn’t a missile and it was technical error and wouldn’t think anything else. SHEEP

Enpax

5y

I have a feeling all the misses at the bases were on purpose tho