The fact is both parties wanted to have sex, both should be able to make their own decisions. Personally I would be there for the kid and not leave, but this is one I have to confront and say there is a lack of consistency. If woman are allowed to abort the baby, men are allowed to leave.

Yes kids should have a father, but unfortunately there is no right answer when it comes to the way we confront these situations.
This kind of subject should be discussed before the baby is born or right when the news breaks out. If the wife decides she wants to keep the baby, the father not agreeing with it should not be forced to stay, especially in an act where both parties are equally responsible for the act itself.

google “financial abortion”. this is more common than you think. men are just copying women’s logic.

He’s acknowledged it, he wants to be a dead beat.

My own personal stance is that if I get a woman pregnant, who I ideally don’t want kids with, and she keeps it I’ll do what I have to do to provide and love the child. Try to co-parent as best I can.

But in OPs scenario, if a nigga is absolutely clear from the get go he don’t want kids, and the shorty still wanna go ahead and have the baby, thinking he’ll come around, I’m somewhat sympathetic to her, but she knew what it was. Often times women think a baby can save a relationship.

Unless you were raped it is idiotic to say you were forced into fatherhood. How difficult is it to understand fatherhood is a possible outcome of sex???

Not every person that has s***has s***with the intention of being a father? That's difficult to understand? If a man wants to abort the child and you refuse, you're forcing him into fatherhood when otherwise he would not want to be.

what is he referring to here?

Your intention means absolutely nothing my friend. You participated you are responsible for all outcomes. It's like getting in a fist fight and the other person dies from injury and you gonna go and say I didn't intend to kill him. What good does that do?

Okay all that is true, has no bearing on how a man in that situation feels, which is the entire point. Y'all are arguing over whether or not someone was 'technically' forced in the role. Yes he played an active role in making the baby by having sex, but if he doesn't want the baby and you keep it anyway to a man that's going to feel like you're forcing him into a role he otherwise wanted out of which doesn't necessarily result in good father's.

I hear you I do. Guess what? That means you have be to very selective in who you decide to have s***with. It's that simple. Having s***irresponsibly most definitely results in poor upbringing for children born into a dysfunctional situation. Owning your action goes beyond what is fair or what you want/intend (the child has no say in that.) Trust me I would be able to relate a bit more then others as I was adopted.

Yes, but y'all are talking about a perfect world, I'm talking about the real world. You were adopted, if your real parents were terrible then wouldn't you say it was best you were adopted instead of them trying to make the parent s*** work when they weren't ready and instead being two s***ty parents?

The guys in here keep saying '2 parent household' or 'coparenting' glossing over the fact that if you force someone to be a father that didn't want to be, he could be a s***ty father to the point where it was probably better for him to have no involvement in the first place.

The parents of the baby I was raising are s***. They're not good for each other, and damn sure not good for her. That's a two parents baby though, and for some reason the people in this thread seem to think that's literally all it takes to have a healthy baby and a healthy home.

you can put your kid for adoption and both parents lose parental rights or one of the parent can lose those rights if both agree on that point

what op wants is for men to be abe to forgo those rights without both parents agreeing to it

While this is harsh… if you established you want no part in raising a child and an abortion was discussed - you should not have an obligation to that child the same way you cannot force a woman to abort.

However, from a human level once the child is born. Man the f*** up that’s your seed.

DEAD BEAT DADDY ALLIANCE THREAD

Both parties deciding to have s***isn’t the same as both parties deciding to have a kid

Unless it was explicitly agreed upon that they’re trying to have kids then one person shouldn’t suffer due to the other persons selfishness

The key is everyone should be practising safe sex. If you ain’t try to have a kid with some rando wrap your s*** up.

What isn’t computing for y’all who keep saying this?

Please answer the question; if you ha e s***with a woman, and she ends up pregnant and you wanna keep it, but she aborts it without telling you, or asking you period, she a deadbeat?

STEP DADDY SEASON

Damn this s*** still going

How would that be considered a deadbeat? Deadbeat would be knowing you have a child and not being present. The child has no choice.

Thanks and even so we ALL know including OP that condoms ain't 100% so you should still be prepared for any outcome. You can whine and b**** about fairness all you want

Her getting an abortion is her choice.

You choosing not to support your literal children is yours.

Dead beats are like rapist to me. F*** em and I wish thy die

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