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Fr, cole is every friend we had in high school that was into “real rap”

We see thats not true tho. I think Fewtch is the better artist w a better discog, but it is easier to imitate him compared to Cole. For that, you have to be able to rap on a certain level

It’s not completely untrue, also I think if you copy j Cole people might think you’re just making dust rap/post Kanye/Kendrick music, if you copy future it’s more obvious

maybe it’s easier to do a bad imitation for fans who aren’t paying attention and never really listened to Future, sure.

like I often hear ppl say they love Roddy and dismiss Future and it’s silly.

I also think Future raps better than Cole, but then again, I don’t rate rap level based off ability to come up with a metaphor that a middle schooler could come up with if he had enough time.

I think it’s because although Future blew up in 2012, he didn’t really blow mainstream wise until 2015

where as Cole, Drake, & Kendrick were all selling 200k+ by 2012

Future’s more influential than Cole because he makes a brand of music that’s far more replicable

But the marketplace has undeniably told you who’s more viable and who’s music is more sustainable

As much as social media wants you to believe Cole ain’t this and Cole ain’t that, he’s been box office for over a decade and is an arena touring act

Super not that. Sorry

no man...

No but influence isn’t everything and that’s why Cole is there

This is exactly what I’ve been saying

We overrate influence on ktt and put it above all other aspects of artistry, when the reason for an artist being so influential can come down to how easy it is to replicate their sound and see success. I’m not saying this is the case for Future, it’s up to you to judge, but it should show that influence isn’t everything

Cole has an easier style to emulate but he's not central enough in the rap landscape for someone to hear you talk about the same themes his music focuses on or use his flows and immediately draw a 1:1 comparison. It's also because his own style is highly derivative ~ which isn't a shot

I feel lot of music that's actually influenced by Keef (or even Gucci) gets falsely attributed to Future the same way a lot of stuff that could be labeled as "Cole influenced" will usually get attributed to Kendrick first

I don't think Cole really had any influence at all. Not a knock on him but he's always basically existed in his own lane. Tons of rappers out now and for the past few years have mainly been trying to emulate Future and Young Thug, and to a smaller extent, Drake. I don't think there's really a lane of newcomers trying to emulate cole, besides maybe the people signed to Dreamville, but that doesn't really count since it's just an extension of him.

Come on man

Didn’t answer my question

Idk about Kendrick but so many of these new artists cite Drake as an influence...

another bait thread

No way

j cole been with sme girl since high school

We need to give Future his flowers

Cole is a watered down modern version of a 00’s rapper with no original ideas and has bars that are meant to be witty but come off as corny. His most interesting aspect is that he produces his own s*** “like the human body” and that’s just the harshest way I can put it

Future is an alien from the other side of the Milky Way sent from the future by God to rid the world of pain. He raps in his real voice and has actually rapped over a Zaytoven beat