Well yeah some people still don’t think he’s genuinely “crazy” but people thought he sounded crazy for years 🤣

lie

Wayne had first tidal exclusive.

IF IT WASNT FOR WAYNE IT WOULDNT BE 🗣🗣

Notice no one is agreeing with you because you’re completely wrong lmfao

2016 Kanye was way bigger than 2011 Kanye

why do we get on here and lie

Nothing wrong with that in and of itself. It would be hard as hell if he had the rhymes to back it up at that time.

Unfortunately in context it was completely detached from reality

If like C2 Wayne walked out in that it would be crazy iconic

TLOP was the first *major TIDAL exclusive

No

That was Anti by Rihanna

Nothing you said pertains to culture. Drake had big buzz but he wasn't a culture shifter or a "cool" rapper until the second half of the 10s. He was the hook guy in the early 10s that had credibility due to hanging around and being cosigned by prime Wayne.

But you didn't see people dressing like Drake, wanting to be Drake, media praising Drakes albums etc... the influence wasn't there. People felt very comfortable disrespecting Drake. "Drake doesn't have a classic" was a very common thought on the internet, especially on KTT1. It isn't until the last 5-7 years that people have gone back and declared some of his earlier albums classics.

Hell I still have this gif from back in the day--and this was 2017ish so even by that time KTT1 was debating whether he had a classic album

S*** was hard

Sad Drake memes were prob Drakes first really big cultural moment right? I’m probably wrong but this thread has me trying to piece them all together.

I feel like either that or Marvin’s Room

That was an accidental upload, it released a day later on iTunes and Apple Music

TLOP was on Tidal exclusively for almost two months

The Yeezus summer was the greatest summer in human history

Drake is cool too tho!

& it was for nothing

He is

12:23 pm now wtf??

2 f***ing months man imagine this s***

I always get mad when I think about this

No he wasn’t. TLOP was big for music fans and white male kids but was niche in the greater culture. It’s only very specific people who listened to that. LR to Graduation fame was about 20 times bigger. Unless we’re strictly talking about kardashian and trump headlines that didn’t translate to ye’s music.

It probably would’ve broken the streaming record at the time that Views set a few months later

Yeahhhh man ppl don’t remember. He had both the mainstream normal casuals and the core fans tapped in to the max 2016. I mean that year drake was obv neck and neck and in terms of charts more successful, but if the argument is who is more culturally relevant at 38 Kanye wins. It was also the year he realized how much fame and attention he gains from fully vulnerably crashing out. 2016 was peak but also the beginning of the end

Easily

TLOP was massive as hell and it got stopped because he got finessed by Hov

Most of current KTT grew up on TLOP so I understand. But LR and Grad back to back was insane even as at my young age. Certain songs of his were just everywhere lol