Free YoungBoy

1y

You’re wrong about TLOP. I was in high school when that dropped. Everyone was on that. It wasn’t just music fans and white kids. My school was mostly black and Spanish

2words

1y

No he wasn’t. TLOP was big for music fans and white male kids but was niche in the greater culture. It’s only very specific people who listened to that. LR to Graduation fame was about 20 times bigger. Unless we’re strictly talking about kardashian and trump headlines that didn’t translate to ye’s music.

dawn

1y

I feel crazy reading this thread it was a massive album all year in spite of the tidal s***

Most bootlegged album ever or some s*** too right?

ryuH

1y

Seeing where Jay and Ye where at those ages really just makes me feel like Drake career arc was ass on the backend

Hov was in American Gangster era at 38 and Ye was in TLOP era, Drake needs a major course correction asap or he’s gonna start looking real mid legacy wise outside his prime 09’-15’ run

TheFader

1y

Yep, most illegally downloaded album of all time. 500K downloads within days

dawn

1y

I feel crazy reading this thread it was a massive album all year in spite of the tidal s***

Most bootlegged album ever or some s*** too right?

dawn

1y

Maybe it's bc I was 14 at the time but idk man that s*** was so huge at the time

The merch, the tour, the yeezys, the msg livestream etc it was all so ubiquitous

Literally every fast fashion brand rushed to try to get their own bootleg Pablo merch out that spring

Free YoungBoy

1y

All facts but I forgot I was responding to known troll 2words

TheFader

1y

It was a huge cultural moment. Anyone denying that either wasn’t there or is extremely out of touch

Icaphxxxx

1y

Drake is fundamentally not an artist, He does not express himself, he expresses what he views as popular or what is current in his lyrics, song structure and vibe. Take care was his best album and it's The Weeknd's illegimate child. even So far gone and before is a copy of 808s and heartbreak
Drake's talent for music is in his business, showmanship and performative arts, He knows how to work in the system because he was a child actor, groomed into an industry. That is fine, curation is a field of work and specialized interest.
It is just laughable to compare him to the Kendricks,Kanye's,Basquiat's s*** even Jay Z.
He is more akin to a very intelligent sociopathic DJ Khaled. Just instead of yelling DJ Khalleeeed. He raps one of his verses of the backs of whatever sound he thinks will be popular

ryuH

1y

Seeing where Jay and Ye where at those ages really just makes me feel like Drake career arc was ass on the backend

Hov was in American Gangster era at 38 and Ye was in TLOP era, Drake needs a major course correction asap or he’s gonna start looking real mid legacy wise outside his prime 09’-15’ run

Black Smoke

1y

Everyone wanted to dress and be like Kanye at the time. Only corny guys ever wanted to be like Drake

Icaphxxxx

1y

TLOP was awful. It is the star wars prequels of Albums. even has the latter adjustments, a small tease of being a pinch of the past but ultimately being a vanity project by an out of touch narcissist

mov

1y

„It was also the year he realized how much fame and attention he gains from fully vulnerably crashing out.“

Thats not really true. In 2016 he was d***ged out, paranoid and his mental illness got way worse. He realized it in 2018 and thats one of the reason why he stopped taking his meds.

2words

1y

No he wasn’t. TLOP was big for music fans and white male kids but was niche in the greater culture. It’s only very specific people who listened to that. LR to Graduation fame was about 20 times bigger. Unless we’re strictly talking about kardashian and trump headlines that didn’t translate to ye’s music.

GodzillaMinusOne

1y

Nothing you said pertains to culture. Drake had big buzz but he wasn't a culture shifter or a "cool" rapper until the second half of the 10s. He was the hook guy in the early 10s that had credibility due to hanging around and being cosigned by prime Wayne.

But you didn't see people dressing like Drake, wanting to be Drake, media praising Drakes albums etc... the influence wasn't there. People felt very comfortable disrespecting Drake. "Drake doesn't have a classic" was a very common thought on the internet, especially on KTT1. It isn't until the last 5-7 years that people have gone back and declared some of his earlier albums classics.

Hell I still have this gif from back in the day--and this was 2017ish so even by that time KTT1 was debating whether he had a classic album

goretex

1y

Why does no one remember Drake at 38 is 15 years into his career and had to go against hov and ye when I was 25

goretex

1y

Ehhh

I’d say it started at yeezus. Think of it like this

Kanye was a kid that studied for every test, the first time he didn’t study he still got a perfect score. Yeezus was his first last min album, he recorded all the vocals on a private plane ride in like 3 hours

TLOP was the first time Kanye figured out that public spectacle leading up to the album worked. They didn’t even have a cover for Pablo until the day of, the constant updating of the note sheet. The twitter arguments, and Yeezy season 3 and another critically acclaimed album (he got a 9.3 or 9.0 from pitchfork following up the 9.5 from Yeezus) like we basically allowed him to get another 100 without studying

Then the fall really started

lacriminal

1y

Don't do that people are still ripping off Black Skinhead & On Sight. There would be no Motomami without Yeezus either, fact

Black Smoke

1y

Nah I can’t fully agree with this. TLOP was definitely more loved than WTT.