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  • NBA GameBoy

    Would it be bad if a foreign government assassinated one of our generals?

    (Assuming you’re in US)

    I dono.. tough question
    Which general and how would the majority of americans feel about it??
    Majority of iranians are against their government and are happy that c*** is dead.

  • would u say the same if iran killed trump like that

  • Jan 23, 2021
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    TragedyBerlusconi

    Solemaini was arming terrorists and using a paramilitary

    If a us general was doing so, it would be morally the same, I dont have double standards

    Did his killing alter these conditions at all?

  • Jan 23, 2021
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    Mango

    Did his killing alter these conditions at all?

    Mike Pompeo is also a clown, no double standards

  • Jan 23, 2021
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    TragedyBerlusconi

    Solemaini was arming terrorists and using a paramilitary

    If a us general was doing so, it would be morally the same, I dont have double standards

    Correct me if I’m wrong but wasn’t he given a lot of credit for crushing isis? Also we have plenty of allies who aid or sponsor terrorism and human rights violation if not commit them theirselves

  • Jan 23, 2021
    NBA GameBoy

    Correct me if I’m wrong but wasn’t he given a lot of credit for crushing isis? Also we have plenty of allies who aid or sponsor terrorism and human rights violation if not commit them theirselves

    As another poster in here pointed out, the debate to which he is responsible for the fall of isis is debatable

    As for the latter point, I guess we do, but not as bad as iran

  • Jan 23, 2021
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    TragedyBerlusconi

    Mike Pompeo is also a clown, no double standards

    What do you mean? Where are you sourcing your "arming terrorists" claim then? That's all Pentagon.

    If you think Solemaini's death was justified because of those alleged actions, and those events are still taking place, what was the point in it?

  • Jan 23, 2021
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    Mango

    What do you mean? Where are you sourcing your "arming terrorists" claim then? That's all Pentagon.

    If you think Solemaini's death was justified because of those alleged actions, and those events are still taking place, what was the point in it?

    He ran a paramilitary that literally trained Shia militants. It's widely known, you dont have to be listening to the Pentagon to know it

  • Jan 23, 2021
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    TragedyBerlusconi

    He ran a paramilitary that literally trained Shia militants. It's widely known, you dont have to be listening to the Pentagon to know it

    The US has also trained Shia militants.

    Should Pompeo be assassinated?

  • Mango

    Did his killing alter these conditions at all?

    His killing had a huge impact. He was the smartest one outta the idiots and he could actually speak arabic and had connections with para military commanders

    Keep in mind that iranian officials are exteremley low IQ and incompetent,... you gotta be to believe the s*** they do.

  • Jan 23, 2021
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    Mango

    The US has also trained Shia militants.

    Should Pompeo be assassinated?

    Mike Pompeo isnt on the ground but this is irrelevant as no one is talking about pompeo, it's about the act of killing him and its consequences

  • Jan 23, 2021
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    TragedyBerlusconi

    Mike Pompeo isnt on the ground but this is irrelevant as no one is talking about pompeo, it's about the act of killing him and its consequences

    I am talking about your justifications for the assassination of Solemaini also applying to US generals. Do you condone their assassination?

  • Jan 23, 2021
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    Mango

    The US has also trained Shia militants.

    Should Pompeo be assassinated?

    They all should be punished, start with d*** cheney .

    Dont execute them because life imprisonment is more brutal for these people

  • Jan 23, 2021
    Frankito Reynolds

    They all should be punished, start with d*** cheney .

    Dont execute them because life imprisonment is more brutal for these people

    I am just interrogating his frame of reference. Somehow I doubt he will maintain his principles pointed back at US forces.

    I'm all for prosecuting people for war crimes and deescalating armed conflicts.

  • Jan 23, 2021
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    Mango

    I am talking about your justifications for the assassination of Solemaini also applying to US generals. Do you condone their assassination?

    If the "general" is in reality an assasin who has the blood of journalists and artists on his hands who had done nothing wrong other than not believing in his bullshit religion then yes he should be punished.

  • Jan 23, 2021
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    Frankito Reynolds

    If the "general" is in reality an assasin who has the blood of journalists and artists on his hands who had done nothing wrong other than not believing in his bullshit religion then yes he should be punished.

    US forces have killed plenty of innocents for sectarian reasons. A lot more than Iran could dream of.

  • Jan 23, 2021
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    Mango

    US forces have killed plenty of innocents for sectarian reasons. A lot more than Iran could dream of.

    No doubt.

    But each should be punished based on the crimes they have commited. You cant just say should US generals be assasinated? .. thats bait

  • Jan 23, 2021
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    Frankito Reynolds

    No doubt.

    But each should be punished based on the crimes they have commited. You cant just say should US generals be assasinated? .. thats bait

    I'm not saying that. I am applying OP's argument to US generals who have carried out genocides and occupations and armed sectarian militias just the same. There are plenty. Their body counts far exceed Solemaini's.

  • Jan 23, 2021
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    Mango

    I am talking about your justifications for the assassination of Solemaini also applying to US generals. Do you condone their assassination?

    if the other side had the same justifications that we did then yes, that is just the way it works

  • Jan 23, 2021
    Mango

    I'm not saying that. I am applying OP's argument to US generals who have carried out genocides and occupations and armed sectarian militias just the same. There are plenty. Their body counts far exceed Solemaini's.

    i mean yeah, i dont expect other countries to hold a higher standard if us generals did that

  • Jan 23, 2021
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    TragedyBerlusconi

    if the other side had the same justifications that we did then yes, that is just the way it works

    So you admit that the US regime are guilty of not only the same crimes as Solemaini but far worse? Or is this merely a rhetorical strategy to feign consistency? I somehow doubt you would support the assassination of a US general.

  • Jan 23, 2021
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    Mango

    So you admit that the US regime are guilty of not only the same crimes as Solemaini but far worse? Or is this merely a rhetorical strategy to feign consistency? I somehow doubt you would support the assassination of a US general.

    i wouldnt support it but i would understand it and why it was done

  • Jan 23, 2021
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    TragedyBerlusconi

    i wouldnt support it but i would understand it and why it was done

    So you think it would be bad?

    Alright, so we all agree. The killing of Solemaini was bad.

  • Jan 23, 2021
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    Mango

    So you think it would be bad?

    Alright, so we all agree. The killing of Solemaini was bad.

    im a consequentialist, i care more about the consequence than intent

    so if killing some us general has a more positive consequence than killing solemaini then ok

  • Jan 23, 2021
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    TragedyBerlusconi

    im a consequentialist, i care more about the consequence than intent

    so if killing some us general has a more positive consequence than killing solemaini then ok

    No, don't back peddle. We went through it step by step. You agree it was bad.

    If you would like to reframe it, then sure, what were the positive results of this assassination? I already linked to Pompeo asserting those same justifications as ongoing.