LongLiveHipHop

2y

The fact the hood dictates the black experience is crazy. Rich successful non impoverished black folk experience the same level of otherization and low expectations all black folk experience a suit or money ain't changing that. I get what you're saying but the idea that poverty or hood experiences make you black. Is the literal propaganda I just thought hip hop had grown past this by now considering all the rap artists we've had this decade that do not fit the typical mold of blackness or rapper asthetic. In my view of real life and hip hop s*** a lot of people have fam or friends or xp related to the "streets" you wouldn't think did. The world is a big place, bigger than any one city or hood black experience.

Shady Ant

2y

Good post.
I still think Drake was laying it on a little thick on songs like Mob Ties, where he’s certainly cosplaying a mob boss, but it is true that a lot of masculine s*** isn’t inherently street.
I mean just look at Eminem: he’s never been street at all, but his early music SCREAMED “if you push me I will crash out on you.” Sometimes that’s just how someone is

network

2y

like who 😂 “underground” as in struggling to pass 50k views? sure

but as soon as ur a somebody people start reaching out for favours and certain love you show is interpreted as picking sides

ryuH

2y

But even that to extent really isn’t “cosplaying” if he really got ties though lol

That song came out in 2018, he’s been signed to cash money, a street label, since 09. He’s had people trying to bring him down this entire time and probably has people that want to take it a step further and harm him or his loved ones. He definitely probably got ties to the street for protection, again he doesn’t have to be FROM the hood to have those ties

The song is called Mob TIES, not Mob BOSS lol. He never claimed to be the boss of anything except for his crew

trappedinmybag

2y

Worst Behavior video was shot in Memphis like he was in the streets or sumn

He was holding folks kids in the video like he was Pop Smoke

I see wat u tryna get at but nah foh, Drake def tried to gain that street image

pimpin

2y

Stop defending the Canadian culture vulture who deliberately exploits black culture for his own gain while giving nothing back.

Shady Ant

2y

Good post.
I still think Drake was laying it on a little thick on songs like Mob Ties, where he’s certainly cosplaying a mob boss, but it is true that a lot of masculine s*** isn’t inherently street.
I mean just look at Eminem: he’s never been street at all, but his early music SCREAMED “if you push me I will crash out on you.” Sometimes that’s just how someone is

network

2y

a reference in a lyric does not mean he reps 3L 😂😂

i don’t think it’s fair for anyone who’s not from the city to try and dissect this they don’t have the context

network

2y

i hate to be the bearer of bad news but there are black people outside the united states

you think african american culture is the only black culture in the world? 😂

insertcoolnamehere

2y

here's the context

network

2y

😂😂😂 u think i haven’t seen this bro i’m pretty sure i’m the person who resurfaced this video 🤣

LongLiveHipHop

2y

Brother I love you but Drake isn't doing anything that a lot of rappers do and to Drake's cred imo looking at the lyrics he has always maintained it's not me it's the homies. Like most rappers not in a gang or set. Drake alluding to anything is always Chubbs, Wassas, HA.

"To be real I never did one crime, but my brothers could never caption that line at all"

"To keep it real, I wasn't really gangster 'til now
I was livin' on a cloud, I was quiet as a mouse
I was in the club gettin' lost in the crowd
Wasn't doin' what I wanted to, I'd do what was allowed"

"If Chubbs has on a Chanel side bag, you don't wanna see him reach inside"

"Big '81, but I don't own a Harley I ride in Mercedes with Shane"

network

2y

i hate to be the bearer of bad news but there are black people outside the united states

you think african american culture is the only black culture in the world? 😂

ryuH

2y

But even that to extent really isn’t “cosplaying” if he really got ties though lol

That song came out in 2018, he’s been signed to cash money, a street label, since 09. He’s had people trying to bring him down this entire time and probably has people that want to take it a step further and harm him or his loved ones. He definitely probably got ties to the street for protection, again he doesn’t have to be FROM the hood to have those ties

The song is called Mob TIES, not Mob BOSS lol. He never claimed to be the boss of anything except for his crew

insertcoolnamehere

2y

so explain the 180 then.

pimpin

2y

Then let Drake exploit those cultures, just leave black American culture alone. Okay?

insertcoolnamehere

2y

who tf has drake crashed out on crodie?

insertcoolnamehere

2y

here's the context

network

2y

if you want to scroll up you can see it in my previous replies with another person, but i’ll reiterate here

toronto street politics are hard to avoid if you are a somebody in our cities scene

even our most wholesome artist who makes indie folk music about peace and religion has gun and assault charges, reps a set, and just recently had his brother killed in a targeted shooting

drake was a good yute for sure it’s clear he was not born into this life, but at some point during ur come up ur forced to do favours and hand outs that are interpreted by people as “picking sides” and that s*** snowballs as ur career develops

i don’t think he’s even that happy about it tbh (although s*** like “Mob Ties” and “Meltdown” say otherwise), it shows in his lyrics about smoke dawgs death

ryuH

2y

It was shot in Memphis where his dad’s side of his family lives

insertcoolnamehere

2y

1. thanks for the context

2. that's also not exclusive to toronto though, everyone has "street" backing. hell even Jack Harlow has street backing (wasn't his entourage behind a shooting at some club in Kentucky), hell the mob funded music way way way back

And maybe I'm bugging, but you can have street backing without claiming or name dropping gangs and sets within your raps or songs in general

BigBlaze

2y

It is "ignorant" ?? that's just the reality. Doesn't make it wrong or bad but the way we talk in "urban" communities across the US (i know Toronto is in Canada) is ignorant.

BigBlaze

2y

It is "ignorant" ?? that's just the reality. Doesn't make it wrong or bad but the way we talk in "urban" communities across the US (i know Toronto is in Canada) is ignorant.