I really don’t understand the whole “street facade” take at all
I posted this the other day but I’ll post this here again bc it’s relevant:
#1 most of the people who say this never seen the hood a day in they life
#2 He never lied about where he was from or his background or none of that. He never lied about being in the streets. And as someone who grew up in a household with a nigga who sold crack and also got in shootouts on the regular I will tell you this: hood niggas do not have a monopoly on masculinity. Half of the s*** yall think is hood s*** is actually just MAN s***. You don’t have to be from the hood to not take s*** from anyone and stand on business. You don’t have to be from the hood to be confident and competitive. You don’t have to be from the hood to be confrontational. You don’t have to be from the hood to own a gun and protect yourself and you certainly don’t have to be from the hood to have a crew that will crash out for you. That’s not hood s***, that’s man s***
Y’all think just bc he’s not “from the hood” he should be a soft spoken beta or something and it really just shows where y’all principles as men are at truth be told
Y’all holla at me when this nigga fake claim a set or say he sold d**** or is from somewhere he not
Good post.
I still think Drake was laying it on a little thick on songs like Mob Ties, where he’s certainly cosplaying a mob boss, but it is true that a lot of masculine s*** isn’t inherently street.
I mean just look at Eminem: he’s never been street at all, but his early music SCREAMED “if you push me I will crash out on you.” Sometimes that’s just how someone is
The street facade killed Drake’s chances of being the true legend that his direct peer, Taylor Swift, eventually became - so no. Hotline Bling’s commercial/cultural peak and One Dance’s commercial peak are pre-thug Drake as well. Gods Plan, Nice For What and In My Feelings diverge from the newer thug-Drake model and more closely resemble old Drake musically and lyrically
He has songs like gods plan, nice for what, and in my feelings on every single album
Times have changed so they didn’t blow up like the old ones
im mixed, weird to think streets is black only. but go off. Mom black Dad white.
Oh you DEFINITELY have no authority on this conversation then lol
lot of things being said in here when what y'all really need to understand is that you don't actually know s*** about Drake or Kendrick hahahahahahahahaha
I mean he got pretty big without it. He made it all the way to NWTS without it but yea he probably wouldn't have become as big of an international star.
IYRTITL was essentially a reset/ rebranding on his career.
Mans could have avoided so much trouble if he just stayed in his melodic Canadian lover boy bag I mean he would still have the character problems of being weird about girls but main point is his opps would have had less ammunition to gun him down
he would’ve eventually been entangled in Toronto’s street politics whether he wanted it or not
it’s ridiculous out here, our most wholesome artist who makes conscious indie folk music about peace and religion has been charged several times with gun possession assault etc, and had his brother killed recently as a result of a targeted shooting
when you have that attention on you, it can’t be avoided, so it helps to make friends
he would’ve eventually been entangled in Toronto’s street politics whether he wanted it or not
it’s ridiculous out here, our most wholesome artist who makes conscious indie folk music about peace and religion has been charged several times with gun possession assault etc, and had his brother killed recently as a result of a targeted shooting
when you have that attention on you, it can’t be avoided, so it helps to make friends
You're talking about Mustafa?
facade? as his grip on Toronto’s crime under world tightened he found it harder to fight the urge to divulge about new life as a the Canadian John gotti
Why are people only allowed to be associated with street s*** in childhood? He fell into that world the higher he rose in the rap game in his 20s. I don’t think it’s an act, he has power and connections. Not saying that lifestyle should be glamourised but why can’t he rap about it? Just because he didn’t grow up in that environment?
This is a crazy post considering niggas clowned sada baby for joining a gang in his 20s.
I get it cause it’s Drake we move the goalposts but still.
We accept a LOT of s*** from him that any other actual black man or rapper would be ANNIHILATED for
You're talking about Mustafa?
yes lol bro makes folk music about how violence is bad only to turn around and rep a set throwing 3s down at his juno’s performance 😂
love the guy though he’s one of the most underrated Canadian artists and an insane talent
house split in two, his mom on 1st floor and him in the basement...helping his mom pay the bills / meds while making roughly 50k a year before taxes. He was upper lower class at best in a middle class neighborhood at best. Drake talks about this in multiple interviews including footage but because he wasn't homeless or living with the lights off while working since 14, go off.
Making 50k a year before you’re old enough to drive is pretty good dawg lmao
yes lol bro makes folk music about how violence is bad only to turn around and rep a set throwing 3s down at his juno’s performance 😂
love the guy though he’s one of the most underrated Canadian artists and an insane talent
from what i can tell he is a massive hypocrite
Niggas gon treat him like chance the rapper when rico’s and bulletholes start happening
This will be a case study for the ages when its all said and done lol. Niggas should have learned from Pac ironically
EXACTLY.
This is a crazy post considering niggas clowned sada baby for joining a gang in his 20s.
I get it cause it’s Drake we move the goalposts but still.
We accept a LOT of s*** from him that any other actual black man or rapper would be ANNIHILATED for
playboi carti receiving high praise for wearing a thong dispels this argument entirely
plus, i don’t think drake “joined a gang” in his 20s
he just has influence and control over them
Drake's level of street connection is the same as Kenny's from a public stand point, they both connected to "the homies" neither of them are in a gang. Kenny's fam being in (Bloods & Crips/ Chi Town Gangs) just makes him associated the same way Drake is associated with Wassas and Hell's Angel. Hip Hop not ready for the convo of how Hip Hop has been selling blackness, artists like Kenny biggest propagandists of "Blackness" which is political term used to divide white from black full f***ing stop. But yeah the guy saying "To be real, man, I never did one crime. But none of my brothers could caption that line." Not anti Kenny just being honest about a convo Hip Hop is not politically aware enough to have. To worried about Blackness. Just my thoughts.
You're a idiot for this post
playboi carti receiving high praise for wearing a thong dispels this argument entirely
plus, i don’t think drake “joined a gang” in his 20s
he just has influence and control over them
heavy affiliated with em
the man was talkin bout showing up with "wassas" on Meltdown man wtf you talm bout
he would’ve eventually been entangled in Toronto’s street politics whether he wanted it or not
it’s ridiculous out here, our most wholesome artist who makes conscious indie folk music about peace and religion has been charged several times with gun possession assault etc, and had his brother killed recently as a result of a targeted shooting
when you have that attention on you, it can’t be avoided, so it helps to make friends
lol I wouldn't call Mustafa wholesome per se but I get wym.
There are tons of underground rappers in Toronto who don't get caught up in street s***. Unfortunately for Mustafa, that was the environment he grew up in.
that's true but we wouldn't have gotten images like
this photo shoot is honestly one of the only good drake aesthetic he had
heavy affiliated with em
the man was talkin bout showing up with "wassas" on Meltdown man wtf you talm bout
a reference in a lyric does not mean he reps 3L 😂😂
i don’t think it’s fair for anyone who’s not from the city to try and dissect this they don’t have the context
lol I wouldn't call Mustafa wholesome per se but I get wym.
There are tons of underground rappers in Toronto who don't get caught up in street s***. Unfortunately for Mustafa, that was the environment he grew up in.
like who 😂 “underground” as in struggling to pass 50k views? sure
but as soon as ur a somebody people start reaching out for favours and certain love you show is interpreted as picking sides