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  • wikig 🍏
    Aug 7, 2020

    It was very wrong but I don’t blame em Japanese culture back then was to never give up something really big had to happen to end that s***

  • wikig 🍏
    Aug 7, 2020

    Also they started the s*** with Pearl Harbor soooo

  • wikig 🍏
    Aug 7, 2020
    Belka

    Nope, It was a pragmatic response to a country that was never going to surrender unless it was on their terms, a Country that for multiple times refused to surrender when it was obvious the Axis was going to lose.

    Whether you like it or not Japan was determined to fight to the last man and when it gets to that point 120-200K sounds alot better than Millions.

    Embargo wouldn't have worked because Japan was driven not to lose. They would've risked Famine over Surrendering risking tens of millions.

    This

  • Aug 7, 2020

    More imperialists finding this thread

  • It seems more imperialist finding this thread

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    "Imperial" Japanese Navy

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    I mean...I guess the US was "in the right" for it since Japan seemed to have no plans to surrender even though Hitler and Mussolini were both dead and the Nazis and Italy already surrendered about 3-5 months prior. Like I'm sure the Allies advised Japan to call it quits since the Axis gave up, but Japan continued to try to take over the rest of Asia and the Pacific.

    Really dropping the atomic bomb was just a way for America to finally test out their fancy new weapon, and Japan not surrendering was their excuse to break it out. The first bomb was to test it out. The second bomb was just a real d***headed power flex, because Japan was actually ready to officially surrender after the devastation of the first atomic bomb drop.

    To reel all this in though. Was America wrong for the atomic bombs in WWII? For the first drop you can make a case to defend the decision. For the second drop they were absolutely wrong for it and that s*** was wild excessive.

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    I mean...I guess the US was "in the right" for it since Japan seemed to have no plans to surrender even though Hitler and Mussolini were both dead and the Nazis and Italy already surrendered about 3-5 months prior. Like I'm sure the Allies advised Japan to call it quits since the Axis gave up, but Japan continued to try to take over the rest of Asia and the Pacific.

    Really dropping the atomic bomb was just a way for America to finally test out their fancy new weapon, and Japan not surrendering was their excuse to break it out. The first bomb was to test it out. The second bomb was just a real d***headed power flex, because Japan was actually ready to officially surrender after the devastation of the first atomic bomb drop.

    To reel all this in though. Was America wrong for the atomic bombs in WWII? For the first drop you can make a case to defend the decision. For the second drop they were absolutely wrong for it and that s*** was wild excessive.

    The thing is they didn’t even surrender after the 1st bomb the Japanese war cabinet insisted that the us didn’t have the ability to produce more weapons of that magnitude, they dropped 2 to give the impression that they could continue until surrender

  • Aug 7, 2020

    Bro they got a f***ing nuke dropped on them and still didn't want to surrender. Saying it wasn't necessary is being very naïve.

  • Changeofheart

    The thing is they didn’t even surrender after the 1st bomb the Japanese war cabinet insisted that the us didn’t have the ability to produce more weapons of that magnitude, they dropped 2 to give the impression that they could continue until surrender

    I guess it was to my understanding that it was Japanese citizens who were ready for their government/military to call it quits after that first bomb. From what I've watched from Hiroshima documentaries at least. S***, many Japanese citizens were done with it when news of Mussolini's death broke.

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    Like there was some decree/order from the Japanese government that came around the time of Hitler's death saying that regular citizens were expected to fight for Japan and the countries they invaded, including the women and children. From war docs, I remember the general reaction of Japanese citizens was something similar to: because most of them assumed the war was pretty much over since the main leader of the Axis was dead and Italy folded already.

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    Smacked Voodoo

    Like there was some decree/order from the Japanese government that came around the time of Hitler's death saying that regular citizens were expected to fight for Japan and the countries they invaded, including the women and children. From war docs, I remember the general reaction of Japanese citizens was something similar to: because most of them assumed the war was pretty much over since the main leader of the Axis was dead and Italy folded already.

    yes they did.. as in total war.

  • Aug 7, 2020

    I ain't even know some Americans were in support of this.

    Yall some disgusting f***s

  • Aug 7, 2020
    Undisclosed

    Saw this tweet all over my TL, wanted to see what KTT thinks

    https://twitter.com/shaun_vids/status/1291385164506030082

    Yeah but pretty much everybody was out of pocket in WW2

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    Dropping a nuke on innocent people is never justifiable but that tweet doesn't acknowledge the fact Japan had a chance to surrender prior and Japan was already an imperial force. If you read up on Japan's military mentality during that era theres untouched conversations on what they were about acheive since souch focus were on the nazis

  • Aug 7, 2020

    I mean s*** idk

    Don’t think it was necessary but I mean it was a time where they started making nuclear weapons so US put their d*** on the table lmao

    War in general isn’t necessary imo

  • Yes but the japanese are also wrong for their human experiments, torturing & rapes

  • Aug 7, 2020

    Had the US lost WWI, the president and generals would rightly have been tried as war criminals. They eviscerated non-combatants with nuclear weapons, and killed even more with lengthy fire bombing campaigns.

  • ThuggerBaby

    Who said only bad people die in war?

    The Japanese public needed a wake up call to see the consequences of what they supported.

    My god you are simply sadistic

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    ThuggerBaby

    Who said only bad people die in war?

    The Japanese public needed a wake up call to see the consequences of what they supported.

    do americans need a wake-up call for what the military does abroad?

  • Gulpin

    do americans need a wake-up call for what the military does abroad?

    I have a feeling he’s willfully ignorant about that

  • Aug 7, 2020

    Yes and no. Yes because without doing it we would’ve never had the utter trash and cultural parasite that is anime. No because we should’ve dropped more once we started so that anime would’ve never existed

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    Was dropping 2 nukes on civilian populated areas unethical even in a time of war? Yes

    Was it at the time the best thing to do? Who knows

    Did the outcome afterwards justify the means? Idk things seem alright now