These last few posts yall.... are we talking about the same Young Thug here? Just checkin

dont try to act like the #imnotgay #thuggerbabes era didn’t happen

people couldn't take a goat being over 5'9

You missed the point and the literal shift on the culture that spawned from that.

Im a thug fan lol. I’ve been listening to him since two cups stuffed debuted on WSHH

That being said I can still acknowledge he had more desperation stunts that most top tier rappers

thug makes real music, but his style is a little too weird for the general geese of the public who only listen to pop

This is mostly true, but ignores the fact the public simply wasnt ready for Barter 6. And of course, it was incredibly ahead of its time.

How are you going to compare barter 6's opening sales week in 2015 (when no-one was ready for that album) to Gunna and Baby in 2020 (the sound was already commercialized and became the norm).

Your point about marketing is true- on each Thug album release except for SMF he was more concerned about the art and not sales numbers. But you cant ignore how much the culture changed in 5 years.

The "17k units!!" is just a dumb and lazy argument and ignores the bigger impact Thug had on the game, which is more profound than any # of units sold.

I wouldn’t say “wasn’t ready”. Although it is ahead of its time and still sounds fresh. But in this case the Barter 6 thing was thug calling it a mixtape at first then a album then a mixtape etc... also he was beefing with lil Wayne which turned a lot of people off towards him being that thug was still a fresh act to most people.

I wasn’t comparing sales in a sense. I’m looking at Gunna and Baby before they even blew up. Like late 2017 early 2018 era is what I’m referring too. They always had proper album rollouts and promo to follow it. They was doing low numbers aswell but it built up as time went on due to great marketing and good music of course. Sure, thug music is way more unique and easily better than his children but his sales has always been low due to terrible marketing and the way that he does literally zero promotion. Thug should of been doing future numbers by 2016 if he would of kept Lyor Cohen in his circle.

And trust me as a thug fan he’s ALWAYS stated the art over numbers so I know that lol. The best example was when he was set to drop EBBTG. And he told everyone this was the music HE wanted to make and not him doing his regular rapping that everyone loves.

Everyone’s aware of thugs insane impact on the game. He’s on tier with keef wen it comes to the influence in 2010s and till now. But you know who else is to? Future. And future numbers was up there and thug is basically his cousin musically. You see how future was doing numbers because even though he had a s*** ton of leaks to and flooded the market he always had proper album rollouts. So it’s no excuse for thugs numbers. Yes the influence and impact is there. Yes thugs music was ahead of his time. Yes he really the father of rap post 2016 and up. But his numbers don’t reflect that simply because he did not promote or market himself to be put into a position where he could statistically succeed

this how thugga paved the way

Bro it really hasn't been the same since 2013.
I think dudes in here were so starved in 2014 it seemed like anything absolutely anything with the smallest bit of underground attention is genius and absolutely avant garde type music.

I used to think this s*** was ironic and now like 7 years later there's no way people don't believe this s*** now. Like I don't know what happened man. Music taste has been dumbed down quite a bit.

If you got a face tattoo and an attitude you're a misunderstood genius fam.

Although even though I hate this movement I will give thug his flowers for his diversity in flows and influence with that.

World wasn't ready, he crawled so they could run.

nothing to do with music, all to do with management

people still think thug is some avant garde pioneer when wayne was immensely succesful off the borrowed style and sound

"the world wasnt ready bro"

please my turn is better than every young thug album

Till he started moving like an industry plant with beautiful thugger girls + the havana feature

London or Havana

Franchise 🔥

Lmao yikes.

Exactly what I was referring to too. Thug was so ahead of the curve and people was f***ing wit his sound off rip he just had a terrible time with anyone who genuinely was trying to market him to do the big numbers

So true. If you told me in 2014 that Travis Scott would be a superstar before young thug I would of slapped the s*** out of you

let’s not act like j cole is the reason thug started doing better commercially lol

why would anyone want a Thug project where he’s the least memorable part of the entire thing?