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  • Jun 2, 2022
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    Song like this debuting at #16 is major W . Keep hating

  • Jun 2, 2022
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    whole thread full of lonely nerds

  • Jun 2, 2022
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    VeggieKubernetes

    I mean if you take a troll seriously I don’t know what to tell you lol

    That’s like setting your resolution to 240p and then complaining about the pixels

    That post is the mentality of like 99% of the “sales discussions” on this forum and you know it ☠️ The only reason half these people are even into that world is because they’re Drake stans

  • KEV 🧊
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    wow Kendrick really is washed

  • Jun 2, 2022
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    VeggieKubernetes

    I mean thats the point of forums no? bring together like minded individuals to discuss niche interests.

    There’s plenty of items I discuss online more than I would in casual conversaton lol.

    Again, this is only controversial because it’s used as a cudgel against an artist that people happen to like

    Nobody would care if yall just discussed the numbers but this is like the 3rd album yall have done this type of s*** for. These kendrick threads only exist because they had a rift like 10 years ago lol. thats what its really about. No way you actually care about what chart data and s*** is tweeting out every hour

  • Jun 2, 2022
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    F A L C O N I A

    whole thread full of lonely nerds

    You here with them

  • Smoofer

    That post is the mentality of like 99% of the “sales discussions” on this forum and you know it ☠️ The only reason half these people are even into that world is because they’re Drake stans

    Ehh not really, It’s a legit interesting thing to discuss. Public consumption and reception of an artist is interesting to talk about the same way people enjoy discussing reviews from publications or YouTubers.

    This really only becomes inflammatory when you’re on the receiving end of poor public reception

  • Jun 2, 2022
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    SHAQUILLE

    Nobody would care if yall just discussed the numbers but this is like the 3rd album yall have done this type of s*** for. These kendrick threads only exist because they had a rift like 10 years ago lol. thats what its really about. No way you actually care about what chart data and s*** is tweeting out every hour

    I mean sales will always be discussed, especially in a genre that prides itself on showmanship and braggadocio. It’s not going away and the only advice I can give is to avoid threads like that (more specifically a thread about the hot 100 which is quite literally for sales and streams)

  • Jun 2, 2022
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    Kendrick Lamar fans talking and stressing about numbers will never not be weird to me.

  • The Darkest Angel

    You here with them

    single post on pg 58 vs spending hours on here writing essays

  • Jun 2, 2022
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    bigbelts

    We all agree there is a place for it (place for furries to f*** too) but how you guys use sales in that thread is not objective at all. No one would s*** on sales if the users weren't using it to draw conclusions that you can't draw from sales or to outright mock an album.

    Displaying data isn't weird, bjt displaying data and using it as a crutch for an underlying motive is and that's what that thread is.

    If I say, "The public isn't really f***ing with Kendrick's new album and the numbers prove it," or, "The public isn't listening to Kendrick's album as much as Future's album," those would be objective measures based on the consumption patterns.

    But if I say, "Kendrick's album is artistically bad and the numbers prove it," or "Kendrick's album is worse than Future's album because it's streaming less," then those are 100% not objective statements

    The problem is that the first two statements and the last two statements sound so similar that people can't tell the difference. People hear the first two statements and assume that what's being meant is the second two. Or that there's subtext in the objective statements implying something that's unobjective. And then you add in people's own emotional attachments and it makes the whole thing worse.

  • Jun 2, 2022
    Freight

    If I say, "The public isn't really f***ing with Kendrick's new album and the numbers prove it," or, "The public isn't listening to Kendrick's album as much as Future's album," those would be objective measures based on the consumption patterns.

    But if I say, "Kendrick's album is artistically bad and the numbers prove it," or "Kendrick's album is worse than Future's album because it's streaming less," then those are 100% not objective statements

    The problem is that the first two statements and the last two statements sound so similar that people can't tell the difference. People hear the first two statements and assume that what's being meant is the second two. Or that there's subtext in the objective statements implying something that's unobjective. And then you add in people's own emotional attachments and it makes the whole thing worse.

    If I make jokes about kendrick's album underperforming commercially I'm not making fun of the album being bad. I'm not even making fun of the album at all. I'm laughing at the people that predicted it was going to sell 500k+

    Same way someone earlier in the thread said all the Kenny Chesney s*** was more about making fun of Drake stans than making fun of Drake or the album itself

  • Jun 2, 2022
    Freight

    If I say, "The public isn't really f***ing with Kendrick's new album and the numbers prove it," or, "The public isn't listening to Kendrick's album as much as Future's album," those would be objective measures based on the consumption patterns.

    But if I say, "Kendrick's album is artistically bad and the numbers prove it," or "Kendrick's album is worse than Future's album because it's streaming less," then those are 100% not objective statements

    The problem is that the first two statements and the last two statements sound so similar that people can't tell the difference. People hear the first two statements and assume that what's being meant is the second two. Or that there's subtext in the objective statements implying something that's unobjective. And then you add in people's own emotional attachments and it makes the whole thing worse.

    You can’t act like essentially every poster saying the first isn’t implying the second. None of these posters are being “objective” about this s*** man ☠️

  • Jun 2, 2022
    Kendrik lama

    Song like this debuting at #16 is major W . Keep hating

  • Jun 2, 2022

    the album is still #3 bro people are listening to it, yall realize when you at the top of the charts you compete with pop and crossover appeal levels right?

  • Jun 2, 2022
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    VeggieKubernetes

    I mean sales will always be discussed, especially in a genre that prides itself on showmanship and braggadocio. It’s not going away and the only advice I can give is to avoid threads like that (more specifically a thread about the hot 100 which is quite literally for sales and streams)

    Nobody said you cant discuss it but just know niggas are gonna make fun of it. Especially when you try and compare it to s*** that niggas actually do care about like sports.

    And I gotta laugh at trying to paint sales talk as if its some hip hop s***. Its behavior that teen pop girls engage in on twitter.

  • Jun 2, 2022
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    SHAQUILLE

    Nobody said you cant discuss it but just know niggas are gonna make fun of it. Especially when you try and compare it to s*** that niggas actually do care about like sports.

    And I gotta laugh at trying to paint sales talk as if its some hip hop s***. Its behavior that teen pop girls engage in on twitter.

  • Jun 2, 2022
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    Freight

    If I say, "The public isn't really f***ing with Kendrick's new album and the numbers prove it," or, "The public isn't listening to Kendrick's album as much as Future's album," those would be objective measures based on the consumption patterns.

    But if I say, "Kendrick's album is artistically bad and the numbers prove it," or "Kendrick's album is worse than Future's album because it's streaming less," then those are 100% not objective statements

    The problem is that the first two statements and the last two statements sound so similar that people can't tell the difference. People hear the first two statements and assume that what's being meant is the second two. Or that there's subtext in the objective statements implying something that's unobjective. And then you add in people's own emotional attachments and it makes the whole thing worse.

    Eminem has sold more albums than Drake has and probably ever will.

    So he's gotta be best rapper ever right?

  • Jun 2, 2022
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    VeggieKubernetes

    Yall keep bringing this up and it gets debunked every time

    Two big rappers dropped on the same day and they played into it to increase their sales and the media followed it because thats never really happened before. Yall cant keep bringing this up like its the norm.

  • Jun 2, 2022
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    Freight

    If I say, "The public isn't really f***ing with Kendrick's new album and the numbers prove it," or, "The public isn't listening to Kendrick's album as much as Future's album," those would be objective measures based on the consumption patterns.

    But if I say, "Kendrick's album is artistically bad and the numbers prove it," or "Kendrick's album is worse than Future's album because it's streaming less," then those are 100% not objective statements

    The problem is that the first two statements and the last two statements sound so similar that people can't tell the difference. People hear the first two statements and assume that what's being meant is the second two. Or that there's subtext in the objective statements implying something that's unobjective. And then you add in people's own emotional attachments and it makes the whole thing worse.

    It should also be stated that while there have been posters in the album sales thread who have insinuated that Kendrick's album flopped because it's mid, most people have stated that while they believe the album is good, it simply isn't something they'd go back to. I've seen more people reiterate the point about it not being an album people want to go back to and that being reflected in it's numbers than people calling the album outright bad but Kendrick stans don't know the difference.

    They're only mad that Kendrick's numbers are being discussed at all because they're lower than they expected, especially when his numbers get compared to other artists who dropped before him but have their albums already performing better than his.

    That's why they hate the album sales thread. I assure you that if his album had performed the way they all believed his follow-up album to DAMN. would, they'd all be in that thread boasting about his stats and numbers but since that isn't the case, you get posts insulting people who show a genuine interest in album stats and commercial performance and they're also mad that Drake stans are comparing Kendrick's latest album performance to Drake's latest album performance like the same Kendrick stans didn't do that very same thing back in 2017 and brag with the numbers Kendrick was putting up.

    It's all very interesting to see.

  • Jun 2, 2022
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    SHAQUILLE

    Yall keep bringing this up and it gets debunked every time

    Two big rappers dropped on the same day and they played into it to increase their sales and the media followed it because thats never really happened before. Yall cant keep bringing this up like its the norm.

    So commercial competition generated buzz

    Intrastin

  • Damn y'all really are typing up essays itt what the f*** lol

  • Jun 2, 2022
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    What's up with the hate on this site for this album? Do yall just hate Kendrick?

  • Jun 2, 2022
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    XavierMane

    Eminem has sold more albums than Drake has and probably ever will.

    So he's gotta be best rapper ever right?

    That entire f***ing post is about how numbers don't equate quality but people easily mistake the two and become hostile to numbers as a whole...thanks for proving my entire point by immediately implying that numbers equate quality

  • Jun 2, 2022
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    VeggieKubernetes

    This narrative that hip-hop has never cared about sales is the biggest lie I've seen get repeated on this site. The same hip-hop where rappers have been bragging about album sales and hit singles for decades and decades? Even hip-hop media has been fully in on all the numbers talk from before we had the internet. What are all these lies that hip-hop fans just started caring about numbers in the last 5 years or something?

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