Jun 2, 2022VeggieKubernetesSo commercial competition generated buzz
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No. two of the biggest rappers of all time dropping on the same day created buzz. Its something that never happened. Thats the only time people cared. Its not the rule, its the exception
- Jun 2, 2022·1 replythegreatdivine
This narrative that hip-hop has never cared about sales is the biggest lie I've seen get repeated on this site. The same hip-hop where rappers have been bragging about album sales and hit singles for decades and decades? Even hip-hop media has been fully in on all the numbers talk from before we had the internet. What are all these lies that hip-hop fans just started caring about numbers in the last 5 years or something?
Pure cope. Had kendrick sold 400k+ we’d be seeing the same adulation and joy that they had when DAMN dropped.
- Jun 2, 2022·1 reply
Rappers bragged about their own sales cause they were getting money from it
Jun 2, 2022I'm still wondering why this is even a thread.
Drake stans hurt lmfaooo
Jun 2, 2022·2 repliesthegreatdivineIt should also be stated that while there have been posters in the album sales thread who have insinuated that Kendrick's album flopped because it's mid, most people have stated that while they believe the album is good, it simply isn't something they'd go back to. I've seen more people reiterate the point about it not being an album people want to go back to and that being reflected in it's numbers than people calling the album outright bad but Kendrick stans don't know the difference.
They're only mad that Kendrick's numbers are being discussed at all because they're lower than they expected, especially when his numbers get compared to other artists who dropped before him but have their albums already performing better than his.
That's why they hate the album sales thread. I assure you that if his album had performed the way they all believed his follow-up album to DAMN. would, they'd all be in that thread boasting about his stats and numbers but since that isn't the case, you get posts insulting people who show a genuine interest in album stats and commercial performance and they're also mad that Drake stans are comparing Kendrick's latest album performance to Drake's latest album performance like the same Kendrick stans didn't do that very same thing back in 2017 and brag with the numbers Kendrick was putting up.
It's all very interesting to see.
It all strengthens my belief that the correlation between sales and quality is mostly perpetrated by the opposing side. If someone posts nothing but the objective numbers, then usually the first person to bring up quality is someone on the losing end of the numbers--right now it's Kendrick, pretty soon it'll be someone else. Eventually it'll be Drake--jumping in and saying "Who cares what the numbers say because x is better than y anyway"
And it's like...you're the one assuming the numbers say something about the quality of the product. The people celebrating the numbers are just celebrating the numbers.
And they'll be the same ones replying to this post saying I'm being dumb for not assuming the subtext behind posting the numbers...only proving my point.
Jun 2, 2022·edited
LeinWhat's up with the hate on this site for this album? Do yall just hate Kendrick?
It's Drake stans being spiteful and Kendrick stans who can't accept that some people aren't on Kendrick's nuts like them. S*** is all bad rn forreal.
- Jun 2, 2022
We Cry Together is not even built to even be a hit, so this is just Papi Angels being in their feelings as usual
Jun 2, 2022·1 replyFreightIf I say, "The public isn't really f***ing with Kendrick's new album and the numbers prove it," or, "The public isn't listening to Kendrick's album as much as Future's album," those would be objective measures based on the consumption patterns.
But if I say, "Kendrick's album is artistically bad and the numbers prove it," or "Kendrick's album is worse than Future's album because it's streaming less," then those are 100% not objective statements
The problem is that the first two statements and the last two statements sound so similar that people can't tell the difference. People hear the first two statements and assume that what's being meant is the second two. Or that there's subtext in the objective statements implying something that's unobjective. And then you add in people's own emotional attachments and it makes the whole thing worse.
What we doing here lol we can tell the difference between those statements and we can tell when those statements are being used as and underlying critique of an artist which is mainly what both those statements are usually being used for whether it's objective or not
- Jun 2, 2022·1 reply
Random tree falls somewhere
Must be the drake stans 
Jun 2, 2022·1 replyFreightThat entire f***ing post is about how numbers don't equate quality but people easily mistake the two and become hostile to numbers as a whole...thanks for proving my entire point by immediately implying that numbers equate quality
So if you acknowledge sales dont equal quality then why are you and the rest of these Drake stans acting like autists?
Is it fun acting dumb?
- Jun 2, 2022·3 repliesVeggieKubernetes
Pure cope. Had kendrick sold 400k+ we’d be seeing the same adulation and joy that they had when DAMN dropped.
What's even more embarrassing about all the cope is how many of the people mad right now were here talking about how Kendrick would do 500-700k just days before the album dropped. They all had high commercial expectations for the album but when the album dropped and started underperforming, they got mad that everyone else remembered all their talk of the album performing a lot better than it ended up doing and started going at people for calling the album an underperformance based on those expectations.
Jun 2, 2022
Whats upKendrick has embarrassed me for the last time. I’ve smashed my 72in TV and tore up my family’s concert tickets. My son ran to his room in tears as he thinks his favorite artist is a chump. My love for the music is ruined thanks to this man. I’m literally shaking rn
Jun 2, 2022No lie, I just seen a Nigga blasting Father Time going crazy in the whip. Nigga was bank head bouncing to sampha
- Jun 2, 2022Smacked Voodoo
Kendrick Lamar fans talking and stressing about numbers will never not be weird to me.
Jun 2, 20226geWI guess he’s the real King Of The Fall
I’m addied up addied up I just ate a plate for breakfast
- Jun 2, 2022
Upper Moon 1We Cry Together as a video gonna be dope tho
But don’t really consider it a song, more like spoken word
Obviously not too many people was gonna listen to this after the 1st play
we cry together as a videogame
Jun 2, 2022
D DotDrake stans gotta be the biggest losers on this site, keeping track of these meaningless stats
What make it worse is these dudes base their personality and who they don’t f*** with around that s*** lol niggas think when Drake sell well they’re apart of that
they’re the “nerds” they diss all the time.- Jun 2, 2022Freight
It all strengthens my belief that the correlation between sales and quality is mostly perpetrated by the opposing side. If someone posts nothing but the objective numbers, then usually the first person to bring up quality is someone on the losing end of the numbers--right now it's Kendrick, pretty soon it'll be someone else. Eventually it'll be Drake--jumping in and saying "Who cares what the numbers say because x is better than y anyway"
And it's like...you're the one assuming the numbers say something about the quality of the product. The people celebrating the numbers are just celebrating the numbers.
And they'll be the same ones replying to this post saying I'm being dumb for not assuming the subtext behind posting the numbers...only proving my point.
Please stop the cap
- Jun 2, 2022
I really liked the beat too bad they wasted it by yelling f*** you for 3 minutes
Jun 2, 2022but if it was drake you guys acting like there wouldnt be a thread for it
- Jun 2, 2022Htownwolf
Random tree falls somewhere
Must be the drake stansYou proved last week they you don't have a backbone and will d***ride anything drake related lol
Jun 2, 2022
bmassDon't try to go through things logically with them, we're passed that. There is simply no way kenny lamar could flop, it's your fault for not getting it buddy
lol you and that other guy are dumb as s*** and are just reading what you want to read
the whole point of my original post was that making a left field song like this that wasnt for the charts is the exact reason why it fell off. how is that denying it fell off?
Jun 2, 2022Masterful track but not deserving of billboards low key only one would be that blxt track or Silent hill
- Jun 2, 2022Freight
It all strengthens my belief that the correlation between sales and quality is mostly perpetrated by the opposing side. If someone posts nothing but the objective numbers, then usually the first person to bring up quality is someone on the losing end of the numbers--right now it's Kendrick, pretty soon it'll be someone else. Eventually it'll be Drake--jumping in and saying "Who cares what the numbers say because x is better than y anyway"
And it's like...you're the one assuming the numbers say something about the quality of the product. The people celebrating the numbers are just celebrating the numbers.
And they'll be the same ones replying to this post saying I'm being dumb for not assuming the subtext behind posting the numbers...only proving my point.
I've always believed that an album having good sustained commercial success points to a sustained interest from enough listeners. What I'd also say is that, even though an album that most people believe is "bad" can also perform well commercially, it's silly to disregard the fact that it's sustained success also points to enough people believing it's good enough to keep listening to. That's probably the only correlation I can make between numbers and quality and it's only because I believe no one in their right mind keeps listening to an album they truly believe is bad months/years after its release.
- Jun 2, 2022·1 replyXavierMane
So if you acknowledge sales dont equal quality then why are you and the rest of these Drake stans acting like autists?
Is it fun acting dumb?
People aren't really f***ing with Kendrick's album. That doesn't mean the album is bad. The ones that can't seem to understand that those two things aren't at odds with each other and why someone might find the first statement interesting but not give a s*** about the second...those people are the ones you should probably direct ableist slurs at.
And I'm not a Drake stan. Based on the numbers I don't really think the public f***ed with CLB as much as previous projects (just to a much much lesser extent than they aren't f***in with Mr Morale) and I'm also interested in how that might affect the next album's sales.
