hxley

5y

“ as soon as his producers changed so did the image “

Illangelo produced on after hours and BBTM and trilogy

Doc produced on starboy and trilogy

Where you going with this argument ?

666

5y

now he's doing interviews, going for a new sound altogether... it's a mess

SamXX

5y

Trilogy was the work of 2 producers for the most part (on the surface level lol) & Abel. His whole "not showing my face"/"not doing interviews" thing fit in with the mysterious Tumblr aesthetic. It fit the sound they created. (Google Jeremy Rose btw he created most of the "image" & sound. Doc & Illangelo just ran with it and made a great project). When the producers started to change, so did the image. Kiss Land, produced by mostly the same producers track by track - but so different to what Doc & Illangelo created.

Then he blows up with a few songs from BBTM - which all leaked months and months in advance if you remember. For public opinion, to see whether the style was worth going with. Or if something else was more marketable. Different producers on every song, few familiar faces, now he's doing interviews, going for a new sound altogether... it's a mess.

He's a creation. Not true to his image for even 2 whole albums. Not saying his music is or ever has been bad. But it's a messy pop creation at this point. Nothing about him is consistent.

666

5y

now he's doing interviews, going for a new sound altogether... it's a mess

666

5y

trilogy stans stay woat let it go bro..

666

5y

now he's doing interviews, going for a new sound altogether... it's a mess

CKL TML

5y

doing interviews and going for new sounds doesnt make someone a mess

he just likes to create a new character for each album and a sound that goes with it. he doesnt need to make trilogy or kiss land type of music since he isnt that same person anymore.

Unc

5y

are you f***ing stupid? it’s called different phases/eras of a artist every goat has them. outkast, kendrick, tyler, etc

SamXX

5y

Trilogy was the work of 2 producers for the most part (on the surface level lol) & Abel. His whole "not showing my face"/"not doing interviews" thing fit in with the mysterious Tumblr aesthetic. It fit the sound they created. (Google Jeremy Rose btw he created most of the "image" & sound. Doc & Illangelo just ran with it and made a great project). When the producers started to change, so did the image. Kiss Land, produced by mostly the same producers track by track - but so different to what Doc & Illangelo created.

Then he blows up with a few songs from BBTM - which all leaked months and months in advance if you remember. For public opinion, to see whether the style was worth going with. Or if something else was more marketable. Different producers on every song, few familiar faces, now he's doing interviews, going for a new sound altogether... it's a mess.

He's a creation. Not true to his image for even 2 whole albums. Not saying his music is or ever has been bad. But it's a messy pop creation at this point. Nothing about him is consistent.

Unc

5y

are you f***ing stupid? it’s called different phases/eras of a artist every goat has them. outkast, kendrick, tyler, etc

SamXX

5y

Yea I get that, but my point is he did that well for a while. But BBTM onwards, it was less about "a new character & sound that goes with it", but more about what was gonna sell well - partnered with a "new image".

SamXX

5y

Trilogy was the work of 2 producers for the most part (on the surface level lol) & Abel. His whole "not showing my face"/"not doing interviews" thing fit in with the mysterious Tumblr aesthetic. It fit the sound they created. (Google Jeremy Rose btw he created most of the "image" & sound. Doc & Illangelo just ran with it and made a great project). When the producers started to change, so did the image. Kiss Land, produced by mostly the same producers track by track - but so different to what Doc & Illangelo created.

Then he blows up with a few songs from BBTM - which all leaked months and months in advance if you remember. For public opinion, to see whether the style was worth going with. Or if something else was more marketable. Different producers on every song, few familiar faces, now he's doing interviews, going for a new sound altogether... it's a mess.

He's a creation. Not true to his image for even 2 whole albums. Not saying his music is or ever has been bad. But it's a messy pop creation at this point. Nothing about him is consistent.

doot doot

5y

should he have screeched like a dolphin like fiona apple did on her album?

hxley

5y

Wtf is this mess

Yeah I’m aware with how those mixtapes came together thank you

The fact that those same producers have continued to collab with him on music that sounds completely different to the mixtapes, completely destroys this weak point you’re trying to make

666

5y

trilogy stans stay woat let it go bro..

John Mauve

5y

Yes. His writing should be as poetic as Shakespeare and have 100 possible interpretations per line. I expect Genius.com to write a book about the album. I expect Pulitzer Prize quality winning lyricism. I accept no less from artists sorry!

666

5y

read the post before that big bro

John Mauve

5y

Yes. His writing should be as poetic as Shakespeare and have 100 possible interpretations per line. I expect Genius.com to write a book about the album. I expect Pulitzer Prize quality winning lyricism. I accept no less from artists sorry!