ithaka

5y

the good life!m? thats from pinkerton their cult favorite, you should try it! i didn’t first recommend it to you before the white or blue album bc i feel it’s better appreciated when you’re familiar with these two

pinkerton is the most open book raw and intense recording release of the band, it’s very intense! rivers was pissed and on a mission to prove himself to the critics to be taken seriously and not be a joke lol (reason he is ppl thought like “undone- the sweater song” was a corky song about sweaters lol the verses are bluntly spot on about depression, the sweater is a metaphor for it)

everything on pinkerton is fire

thank you taking time to read 🥺

PEEEEEEEEERRY

5y

"California Snow" but i'll check out that too, and totally gotchu excited to check out more of their discog, "thank you for reading" ??!?! THANK YOU for MAKING THIS THREAD

ithaka

5y

@ZEKE dont know if it will make you appreciate the song more but i can hope my essay above gives you new perspective on it

ZEKE

5y

I havent listened to California snow in a while but it sounds better than I remember and I like your thoughts!

ithaka

5y

love you man god bless u

need YT chsnnel expeditiously

ithaka

5y

my brother we should all just appreciate music period it’s what it is, or what rivers aims for, they never intended to be this 90s cult or to save to rock, it’s about making good songs really (again me just thinking out loud not implying this is how you perceive weezer to be, more of me venting after reading youtube comment section on california snow lol)

PEEEEEEEEERRY

5y

same fam

ithaka

5y

OOO WHY O WHY O WHY DO MY FLOWERS ALWAYS DIIIIR WHY DO THEY DIIIIIE 🌹🥀

some fan on yt did a dope animation for it doing literal visuals for some of the lyrics it’s nice

ZEKE

5y

You're making me want to listen to pacific daydream and black album again I think I only listened to them once or twice when they dropped

deepsleep

5y

=W= gang

ithaka

5y

black album grew on me i came to accept like it was, i was just frustrated it wasn’t fully on the theme rivers promised (lil uzi influenced with lot of cursing and total contrast to white - which is why it was the black album in the first place, white was this reassuring retro mission and black was gonna be its contemporary villain) it came out compromised i think bc of the surprise hit that was the africa cover, but it’s ok, half of the album is genuinely good to great, kinda like red? altho i like red better

pacific daydream however is my lil baby.. i put it above white in my list, it just got what i love it’s rich and has variety yet there’s the bbs influences and hooks, beautiful lyrics

ZEKE

5y

Yeah I just listened to beach boys and have happy hour on rn theyre pretty good better than I remember. The beach boys hook always gets stuck in my head even when I havent heard it in forever

ithaka

5y

byzantine is so good, it’s the creativity i wanted more from, this bossanova mixed in with bunch of cute synth - where else could you get that from? who else be putting this out??

big fan of california snow tho, that’s how i envisioned black to be, it’s 100% modern yet it’s a super weezer song from a lyrical pov, the saddest of how the “woo’s” goes on the last verse are heartbreaking, love that contrast, he’s really singing thiis of the rockstar party lifestyle we al chase for yet leaves you more lonesome, the song of every rockstar that died lost in that...

what i love the most about california snow is how structure wise even tho the prod is ultra pop and rap it super progressive it reminds me of red for that: starts with those dope saturated synths and that baseline on the low with rivers going on into the first verse right away, setting the tone and image of the rockstar being the big s*** fooling you this song is just bragging ego trip

kick into the chorus where the drums drops and rivers uses california snow as the image for coke , the synth loops goes on and bass louder

then switch all that, chorus ends and the synth and bass gone, piano comes in and takes over it all and we get a new verse different from the opening lines, rivers goes on to set imagery which slowly leads from the bragging of the party lifestyle onto the lonesomeness outcome of it

the chorus comes back with huge bass but the synth isn’t here, the piano follows in and you didn’t even notice, amazing transition and prod - synth comes back on the second half often hook (cause im dooowwnn) but with a new element that is the lead guitar that comes in to add more texture to it all, again we keep progressing

then a break down, the first half of it - notice so far we havnt had a verse section that has repeated itself , super dramatic classic rivers buildup (panic attack stay the hell back it’s me and you against the world) with beautiful harmonies then second half of the break down which brings back the intro section verse of the song but not just repeating it, now the lyrics got dark since the story progressed, the theme is not egotrip anymore but the fall yet with the contrast of the “woo!” as if he still goes on to that lifestyle, the cry behind the shout (come on judas give me a kiss woo i can’t take no more of this...woo don’t nobody look at me.. woo just nail me up by the wrist) the woo sounds more and more sad, it’s like this echo of tht turmoil hell

then the chorus and it ends with a dope outro with the guitar that takes a nice spot

another example to me of the greatness of rivers subtle songwriting through the styles he ventures into, a chameleon through the sounds he loved bc just his passion of music yet he still gets better how to write songs and gets an expert at crafting it from structure wise musically but also lyrically and how to display that whilethe fans just shuts down to and asks for more rock basic musicabout longing girls..

it’s redondant they’re missing the point and that’s why i always stress how weezer is the most overlooked band ever and deserves so much more credit (im not saying this about you heyfella just in general consensus, just wanted to talk about this song and why it’s slept on imo)

to me this song is as much peak weezer as high as a kite, it just happens that high as a kite sounds more like traditional weezer

@Womanpuncher69 @RVI @Unwound @deepsleep

ithaka

5y

come here

no but fr sweet mary, qb blitz, weekend woman are top tier classic weezer... (altho im not a fan of qb blitz bridge sounds out of place)

how are get right and mancha not catchy asl? they’re hits!

mexican fender is literally a white album leftover have no idea why fans were so hard on it, splendid chorus and bridge more bbs influenced than ever

any friend of diane the beautiful bridge... amazing lyrics

seriously don’t get the hate, seems unfair just bc it doesn’t have guitar solos, like what red album went through, leaves room for creativity! i mean jeez don’t we have enough guitar shredding weezer albums by now haha

ZEKE

5y

Yeah I just finished and have no idea why I thought it was so bad when it released I liked all the songs lol

ithaka

5y

@ZEKE this bangs wish black album had the confidence to have s*** like that, i put it on my tracklist

ZEKE

5y

Never heard that before I gotta listen to black again

ithaka

5y

@Vagabonds thought this could interest you my brother

hope you have a beautiful day ily

ithaka

5y

yeh rivers has some featurings, really liked this one too i believe it was done during the original black album

vagabonds

5y

goddamn u the goat ily my man

i fw the electronic bag they're in on this

vagabonds

5y

i needa listen to weezers new s*** more