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  • Jun 17, 2024
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    bro was so cocky and arrogant he didnt even bother to actually sing/rap on his own tour

  • Jun 17, 2024
    YoungBreezy

    Didnt CLB break loads of streaming records?

    yeah but DLDT was him in the middle of an obscene run of #1’s and people weren’t f***in with it as some other stuff even though i loved DLDT and still do

  • Jun 17, 2024
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    serenade

    honestly nevermind and her loss almost gained him back the goodwill he lost between views and CLB, but then he followed those up with a rushed midlife crisis album he recorded on tour. scary hours 3 was good but attaching it to FATD as a deluxe caused people to overlook it.

    Honestly, Nevermind definitely did not gain him any goodwill. The project was dunked on crazy and performed poorly for drake album standards. It’s kinda turned into a cult classic now amongst some people on the internet, but overall most people still don’t rate it highly

  • Jun 17, 2024
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    ICEMAN40

    lol do you remember why that debuted number 2?

    yeah and it didn’t do bad numbers but still for someone we’re so used to seeing going #1 easily him going #2 was kinda him sliding

  • Jun 17, 2024
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    Classique

    yeah and it didn’t do bad numbers but still for someone we’re so used to seeing going #1 easily him going #2 was kinda him sliding

    Ehh I don’t think it slid at all. Billboard changed the way they counted streams toward sales, it was a tape full of demos or leaked songs, drake was never going to bundle his music for the sake of getting more sales and Kenny chesney beat him out because of that… that’s about the jist if it. I certainly would not say this was the beginning of the end.. especially with the way CLB performed a year and a half later after DLDT

  • Jun 17, 2024
    Elemental

    Honestly, Nevermind definitely did not gain him any goodwill. The project was dunked on crazy and performed poorly for drake album standards. It’s kinda turned into a cult classic now amongst some people on the internet, but overall most people still don’t rate it highly

    yeah Honestly Nevermind is very divisive some people love it and it put a lot of people onto house and different EDM sounds but others are calling it weak im glad he made it though personal classic for me

  • Jun 17, 2024
    ICEMAN40

    Ehh I don’t think it slid at all. Billboard changed the way they counted streams toward sales, it was a tape full of demos or leaked songs, drake was never going to bundle his music for the sake of getting more sales and Kenny chesney beat him out because of that… that’s about the jist if it. I certainly would not say this was the beginning of the end.. especially with the way CLB performed a year and a half later after DLDT

    yeah fair i mean what does a drake fall off even look like tbh. his next singles and album are still gonna do numbers that are the best in some people’s careers and tbh i don’t think he cares too much about numbers at this point considering he isn’t putting out deluxes or playing the sales games others do

  • Jun 17, 2024
    Elemental

    Honestly, Nevermind definitely did not gain him any goodwill. The project was dunked on crazy and performed poorly for drake album standards. It’s kinda turned into a cult classic now amongst some people on the internet, but overall most people still don’t rate it highly

    i think it earned him goodwill for making a concerted effort to focus on a singular sound for an entire album instead of trying to appeal to every demographic and market at once like he usually does. even if it didn't resonate with everyone, it's still more respected than most of his post-IYRTITL output simply because it feels like a real passion project.

    CLB and FATD were more commercially successful but they were also scrutinized much more and did more to hurt his reputation as an artist. the reaction to HNVM just reflects the nature of dropping an experimental album, some people are gonna like it and others are gonna hate it. you'd rather get that reaction than having people question if you even take your artistry seriously and if you're only dropping albums to pad your stats on the charts.

  • Jun 17, 2024
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    Elemental

    Don’t get me wrong, Not Like Us is massive but people really are showing their recency bias.

    Not Like Us is a moment. I’ve been saying that, but like people are taking the meat riding to another level now 😂

  • Jun 17, 2024
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    serenade

    honestly nevermind and her loss almost gained him back the goodwill he lost between views and CLB, but then he followed those up with a rushed midlife crisis album he recorded on tour. scary hours 3 was good but attaching it to FATD as a deluxe caused people to overlook it.

    I agree

    HNM definitely had a lot of hate but it did pretty well with the critics relative to his other releases this decade, it also has the most loyal cult following of any project he’s done this decade. Ultimately though it’s perceived as a novelty project and not really part of his main cannon and that’s why it didn’t gain him as much goodwill as his top tier projects.

    Her Loss and FATD containing literally Zero EDM/House influence kind of underscores the novelty of HNM even more.

    Her Loss definitely had him in people’s good graces too but it not being a solo effort made it a novelty project as well. People wanted to see him sustain that level of quality and execution on his own rap project.

    2022 Drake seems like a distant memory already

  • Jun 17, 2024
    Elemental

    Honestly, Nevermind definitely did not gain him any goodwill. The project was dunked on crazy and performed poorly for drake album standards. It’s kinda turned into a cult classic now amongst some people on the internet, but overall most people still don’t rate it highly

    A cult classic by me. I love that album lmao

  • Jun 17, 2024
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    TiddyTranquilo

    I really think he would be back in his bag if he just took a year or two off

    No features, no ig captions, no music. just relax for a while and come back strong ,and I know 40 can’t produce everything anymore but at least get him involved more again

    Im a Stan and I love all of his albums but I can admit there’s a decline in quality

    Why can’t 40 produce anymore? He still engineers and co produced on Party’s album

  • Jun 17, 2024
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    AvenueJones

    Why can’t 40 produce anymore? He still engineers and co produced on Party’s album

    Because of his health probably

  • Jun 17, 2024
    Kinbote

    Because of his health probably

    He’s still working as far as being credited on Party’s album Maybe he wasn’t physically doing it tho.

  • AvenueJones

    Why can’t 40 produce anymore? He still engineers and co produced on Party’s album

    Nah he still produces and co produces, its more like he’s not in the drivers seat as much as he used to be. You can tell he probably isn’t as involved with drakes beat selection as much as he was before

  • Jun 17, 2024
    ICEMAN40

    Not Like Us is a moment. I’ve been saying that, but like people are taking the meat riding to another level now 😂

    They have been but it’s all good it stops so soon

  • Jun 17, 2024
    ryuH

    I agree

    HNM definitely had a lot of hate but it did pretty well with the critics relative to his other releases this decade, it also has the most loyal cult following of any project he’s done this decade. Ultimately though it’s perceived as a novelty project and not really part of his main cannon and that’s why it didn’t gain him as much goodwill as his top tier projects.

    Her Loss and FATD containing literally Zero EDM/House influence kind of underscores the novelty of HNM even more.

    Her Loss definitely had him in people’s good graces too but it not being a solo effort made it a novelty project as well. People wanted to see him sustain that level of quality and execution on his own rap project.

    2022 Drake seems like a distant memory already

    I think you could make the argument that the announcement of FATD generated all time hype for a Drake album akin to Views, CLB, etc. This coincides with Drake’s last two projects really moving his momentum forward and then the “they say they miss the old Drake girl don’t tempt me” reference in the announcement like I think there’s a timeline where things really would’ve hit another gear. Unfortunately FATD not only was a misguided and bloated album, but the rollout was so exhausting and honestly just s*** it kind of is representative of the feedback it got. I wish he showed more of an effort to focus on the process like he used to from the announcement to the rollout to the execution. The fact that delayed the release 6 hours AFTER 12am says it all like bro wtf are you doing lol

  • Jun 17, 2024
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    ryuH

    I agree

    HNM definitely had a lot of hate but it did pretty well with the critics relative to his other releases this decade, it also has the most loyal cult following of any project he’s done this decade. Ultimately though it’s perceived as a novelty project and not really part of his main cannon and that’s why it didn’t gain him as much goodwill as his top tier projects.

    Her Loss and FATD containing literally Zero EDM/House influence kind of underscores the novelty of HNM even more.

    Her Loss definitely had him in people’s good graces too but it not being a solo effort made it a novelty project as well. People wanted to see him sustain that level of quality and execution on his own rap project.

    2022 Drake seems like a distant memory already

    2022 drake was having fun and trying new things, current drake is (unfortunately) in a midlife crisis

  • Jun 17, 2024
    Classique

    2022 drake was having fun and trying new things, current drake is (unfortunately) in a midlife crisis

    2020 & 2022 Drake was so goated

    2021, 2023, & 2024 all disappointed in one way or another

    Hopefully he has a good 2025

  • Jun 17, 2024

    No we’re not you b**** ass hoe

  • THE ELIMINATION OF DRAKE IS ALMOST COMPLETE

  • Jun 17, 2024
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    insertcoolnamehere

    bro was so cocky and arrogant he didnt even bother to actually sing/rap on his own tour

    this is when i knew it was really over

    then the unhinged OVO radio rant he went on right before For All The Dogs dropped

  • Jun 17, 2024
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    AvenueJones

    Why can’t 40 produce anymore? He still engineers and co produced on Party’s album

    Drake started distancing himself from 40 when he found out he was the real mole during the pusha beef.

    Got a new enginner and I barely see 40 production credits on any of drakes albums

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